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High beef prices and the destruction of independent cattle ranching

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Re: High beef prices and the destruction of independent cattle ranching

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Intentionally destroying the beef market would be a lot of rich people's dream.

can you elaborate? considering we (humanity) are de-sequestering thousands of acres of captured carbon in order to create new cattle farms, i really hope by destroy you don't mean monopolize and grow.

Re: High beef prices and the destruction of independent cattle ranching

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Sounds like independents need to band together and vertically integrate by creating a meat packing facility that serves them and passes on the profits. Similar to, albeit on a much smaller scale, how the local grange can allow farms to plan who is planting what and organize who owns what specialized equipment and the reasonable rate for them to utilize it at others' request.

Re: High beef prices and the destruction of independent cattle ranching

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Sounds like independents need to band together and vertically integrate by creating a meat packing facility that serves them and passes on the profits. Similar to, albeit on a much smaller scale, how the local grange can allow farms to plan who is planting what and organize who owns what specialized equipment and the reasonable rate for them to utilize it at others' request.

Why not band together and force better conditions by the corporations? This is what unions are for, a place for labor to bargain fairly compared to capital.

This will also have the nice benefit of raising the tide to lift all boats, rather than trying to diverge and course correct by oneself (raising cattle isn't comparable in skills or costs to running a meat packing facility).

Re: High beef prices and the destruction of independent cattle ranching

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Sounds like independents need to band together and vertically integrate by creating a meat packing facility that serves them and passes on the profits. Similar to, albeit on a much smaller scale, how the local grange can allow farms to plan who is planting what and organize who owns what specialized equipment and the reasonable rate for them to utilize it at others' request.

Why not band together and force better conditions by the corporations? This is what unions are for, a place for labor to bargain fairly compared to capital. This will also have the nice benefit of raising the tide to lift all boats, rather than trying to diverge and course correct by oneself (raising cattle isn't comparable in skills or costs to running a meat packing facility).

> This is what unions are for

They're independent companies. They aren't employed by anyone. They aren't labour they're owners. That's not what a union is for.

Re: High beef prices and the destruction of independent cattle ranching

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why not band together and force better conditions by the corporations? This is what unions are for, a place for labor to bargain fairly compared to capital. This will also have the nice benefit of raising the tide to lift all boats, rather than trying to diverge and course correct by oneself (raising cattle isn't comparable in skills or costs to running a meat packing facility).

> This is what unions are for They're independent companies. They aren't employed by anyone. They aren't labour they're owners. That's not what a union is for.

Correct, that is what a cartel is for

Re: High beef prices and the destruction of independent cattle ranching

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As a small farmer, I can tell you: independent small-scale farming is not profitable in any meaningful manner. Government is actively killing it, by giving away every possible concession to Big Ag.

The food in stores is pretty much all garbage compared to food raised on small farms. It sickens me to see things go this way, but this is the reality that we have created.

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