I think it is just part of the commercialization of the web, the same dynamics that happens everywhere where a firm with a good product/brand change it to increase cash flows or some other KPI. Though much more clear in consumer market, but also happen to rich, influential companies (think about the clients of Oracle).
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#22Nobody is forced to continue using dark-pattern software, nobody was forced to use Apple and tie their credit-card to their "apple cloud account", yet normal users dont see a problem with it at all and just continue even paying for software which is hostile to them and their interests.
Your question is like, "Why does DRM exist it is actively hostile to buyers of content".
Previously the internet was better since the average internet user avoided scams, but now the users are seeking out scams to indulge in.
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#24I've recently been travelling to some fam in Europe and the entire COVID experience is so convoluted and obscene I feel a moral obligation to defraud the private services profiting off of it.
Paying 100 euro for a test at the airport in Dublin when you depart so you can prove you didn't get COVID in the UK when you come back into Ireland 2 days later. No logic or reasoning.
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#25I think it is just part of the commercialization of the web, the same dynamics that happens everywhere where a firm with a good product/brand change it to increase cash flows or some other KPI. Though much more clear in consumer market, but also happen to rich, influential companies (think about the clients of Oracle).
Agreed. Capitalism is fueled by greed.
What could we replace capitalism with? Won't underlying human behavior remain the same?
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#26I think it is just part of the commercialization of the web, the same dynamics that happens everywhere where a firm with a good product/brand change it to increase cash flows or some other KPI. Though much more clear in consumer market, but also happen to rich, influential companies (think about the clients of Oracle).
https://dietsinreview.com/diet_column/11/no-fat-girls-allowe...
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#27Users tolerating such bullshit is the reason why it exists and keeps on existing. Nobody is forced to continue using dark-pattern software, nobody was forced to use Apple and tie their credit-card to their "apple cloud account", yet normal users dont see a problem with it at all and just continue even paying for software which is hostile to them and their interests. Your question is like, "Why does DRM exist it is ac…
If anything it’s policy makers, investors and industrialists.
If you want to participate in society, you need a smartphone, and guess what? The whole world is okay with only 2 companies doing this….
Re: Ask HN: Why is today's Internet experience so user hostile?
#28Users tolerating such bullshit is the reason why it exists and keeps on existing. Nobody is forced to continue using dark-pattern software, nobody was forced to use Apple and tie their credit-card to their "apple cloud account", yet normal users dont see a problem with it at all and just continue even paying for software which is hostile to them and their interests. Your question is like, "Why does DRM exist it is ac…
Consumers have been sold a dream, and after the tech advances and sweatshoping can't go farther, they would rather eat skimpflation day after day than pay more. This is most evident online, where a good chunk of the population expect everything to be free.
Re: Ask HN: Why is today's Internet experience so user hostile?
#29Users tolerating such bullshit is the reason why it exists and keeps on existing. Nobody is forced to continue using dark-pattern software, nobody was forced to use Apple and tie their credit-card to their "apple cloud account", yet normal users dont see a problem with it at all and just continue even paying for software which is hostile to them and their interests. Your question is like, "Why does DRM exist it is ac…
And all those online things are way easier once you're committed to the Clown® Computing, Clown® fatigue notwithstanding.
So you opt to not have those things, and for all intents and purposes you look like a digital hermit with a disturbing tendency for self-flagellation. "Why do you keep doing these things to yourself?"
So, yeah, so far, personal comfort beats the hostility. So far.
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#30If someone offers a service that is useful, but does so in a way that is annoying, you can just say "thanks but no thanks" and be on your merry way. Few do, but again, it's a choice.