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Things I Won't Work With: Dioxygen Difluoride (2010)

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Re: Things I Won't Work With: Dioxygen Difluoride (2010)

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Oh, then you will love DimethylMercury https://youtu.be/h049Hgfk-BI

Curiously, the MSDS indicates SilverShield gloves but does not specifically call out latex gloves as permeable and counter-indicated. This seems like a disastrous error of omission.

https://fscimage.fishersci.com/msds/99021.htm

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My chemistry teacher warned me to stay away from people who would use the ° sign for Kelvin ("90°K") or leave it out when talking about degrees centigrade ("-180C")... this guy does both ;-)

It is true that one should say just Kelvin and not “degrees Kelvin”.

But it wasn’t always so. From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelvin

> In 1967/1968, Resolution 3 of the 13th CGPM renamed the unit increment of thermodynamic temperature "kelvin", symbol K, replacing "degree Kelvin", symbol °K.

And from Lord Kelvin himself in his "On an Absolute Thermometric Scale", a copy of which is at https://web.archive.org/web/20080201095927/http://zapatopi.n...

> The characteristic property of the scale which I now propose is, that all degrees have the same value; that is, that a unit of heat descending from a body A at the temperature T° of this scale, to a body B at the temperature (T-1)°, would give out the same mechanical effect, whatever be the number T. This may justly be termed an absolute scale, since its characteristic is quite independent of the physical properties of any specific substance.

So even Lord Kelvin himself was originally speaking of degrees in his absolute scale.

Re: Things I Won't Work With: Dioxygen Difluoride (2010)

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This sounds very nearly almost as toxic as dihydrogen monoxide- a truly deadly substance[0] that must be used very carefully. [0] https://www.lockhaven.edu/~dsimanek/dhmo.htm [Edit] tough crowd tonight.

Funny joke if you're 12. Which I guess is why everyone heard it from their middle-school chemistry teacher.

When I was a snot-nosed kid I tried that joke on a chemist family friend. He helpfully informed me that hydrogen hydroxide is a more clever way to say it that’s less wrong, but still fails to really capture the polar nature of H2O.

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Following a link in the comments gets you to the PDF of Streng's 1962 paper, with some good notes. Having a Pyrex cylinder of this stuff sitting in anything other than a cryostat 20 miles from civilization sounds like a very bad idea. https://www.andrew.cmu.edu/user/jklein2/O2F2.pdf If I wanted to synthesize this stuff, I think my preferred method would be SCP-294 https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-294

> SCP-294

I'm curious as to what a "safe distance" is when requesting a cup of anti-water. Reacting 8 ounces of antimatter with a similar amount of matter releases energy on the order of a large thermonuclear bomb.

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My personal favorite article from Derek Lowe about a chemical that isn't actually all that dangerous... but you still likely don't want it around. https://www.science.org/content/blog-post/things-i-won-t-wor...

I'm surprised something so potent was never used as a chemical weapon. Sounds like it could easily clear out a trench or riot in the streets.

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post #26

Following a link in the comments gets you to the PDF of Streng's 1962 paper, with some good notes. Having a Pyrex cylinder of this stuff sitting in anything other than a cryostat 20 miles from civilization sounds like a very bad idea. https://www.andrew.cmu.edu/user/jklein2/O2F2.pdf If I wanted to synthesize this stuff, I think my preferred method would be SCP-294 https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-294

> SCP-294 I'm curious as to what a "safe distance" is when requesting a cup of anti-water. Reacting 8 ounces of antimatter with a similar amount of matter releases energy on the order of a large thermonuclear bomb.

Well, obviously SCP-294 agrees it's a terrible idea. Possible invocation of self-preservation logic.
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