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Nooooo this is so sad to hear as I was recently thinking about getting a blackberry for work. I have the Samsung Galaxy S21 though which is my personal phone.
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Thanks for the explanation, though I think I still don't quite understand it. Is there something that's required to be provided by Blackberry on either side to make this work? I would have kind of expected that 2G/3G/etc. are device-agnostic and would work with just about any device with a valid SIM card trying to connect to the network. I know someone who's using an older pre-Android Blackberry, so I'll have to figu…
The older Blackberries relied on a centralized server for configuration and setup of both public and corporate settings. The devices _should_ be able to make calls and text (baseline SMS), but they might error out in various things (browser dead, contacts gone, even some menus dead or stalling) and if they are reset you might not be able to get texting back (since it _might_ not rely on the SIM card to set the SMS me…
I’m not a programmer , I deal with oily things, but why the hell would you rely on a central server for basics like SMS? Surely it should have some basic SMS ability if only to background text the network for the proper SMS setup.
It feels like baked in obsolescence or supreme confidence that you’ll be around forever to send out the settings.
> Will BlackBerry Android devices still work after EOL date?
> BlackBerry Android devices will not be impacted by the EOL of infrastructure services unless they are receiving redirected email sent to a BlackBerry hosted email address, or assigned an Enhanced Sim Based License (ESBL) or Identity Based License (IBL). ...
[1] https://www.blackberry.com/us/en/support/devices/end-of-life
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The older Blackberries relied on a centralized server for configuration and setup of both public and corporate settings. The devices _should_ be able to make calls and text (baseline SMS), but they might error out in various things (browser dead, contacts gone, even some menus dead or stalling) and if they are reset you might not be able to get texting back (since it _might_ not rely on the SIM card to set the SMS me…
> The older Blackberries relied on a centralized server for configuration and setup of both public and corporate settings. The devices _should_ be able to make calls and text (baseline SMS), but they might error out in various things (browser dead, contacts gone, even some menus dead or stalling) and if they are reset you might not be able to get texting back (since it _might_ not rely on the SIM card to set the SMS…
Please pass that message to RIM/BlackBerry. And yes, they did feel like that, until Apple have attacked.
As an aside, Most Android phones below ICS are now also "dead" (https://support.google.com/android/answer/10313246?hl=en, note that Honeycomb do not have phone services baked in) and cannot be provisioned even for very basic service (except for emergency calls).
I could touch type and required less autocorrect.
Like autocorrect today still doesn't support typing Spanish with 'vos' conjugations well.
For example it keeps wanting to change the 'to be' verb 'sos' to 'SOS' or a 'SOS' emoji.
Has any of you used modern phones with physical keyboards? How has your experience been?
> As of January 4th, the phones will no longer be provided with provisioning services, meaning that they will gradually lose the ability to join networks, including the cellular network. I honestly don't get this. How can calls via the regular cellular network stop working reliably? I'm using a dumbphone that hasn't seen any updates in its entire lifetime and it still works reliably for making calls.
Blackberry was always the weird one out that effectively depended on special service from your provider combined with special tariffs for using them. This is a legacy from when they were explicitly enterprise devices and you couldn't exactly buy them normally. Similarly, the core functionality of the original BB - email - is no longer supported (though you can probably run it still) because the special server softwar…
I was more productive with phones that had a physical QWERTY keyboard. I could touch type and required less autocorrect. Like autocorrect today still doesn't support typing Spanish with 'vos' conjugations well. For example it keeps wanting to change the 'to be' verb 'sos' to 'SOS' or a 'SOS' emoji. Has any of you used modern phones with physical keyboards? How has your experience been?
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Thanks for the explanation, though I think I still don't quite understand it. Is there something that's required to be provided by Blackberry on either side to make this work? I would have kind of expected that 2G/3G/etc. are device-agnostic and would work with just about any device with a valid SIM card trying to connect to the network. I know someone who's using an older pre-Android Blackberry, so I'll have to figu…
> Thanks for the explanation, though I think I still don't quite understand it The underlying point is that the Blackberry was not your average smartphone. Your average smartphone (assuming it is not carrier locked) can be used forever (although it would not be advisable to do so due to lack of security and OS updates). The Blackberry was a wolf in sheep's clothing. It might just look like another smartphone, but it…
> As of January 4th, the phones will no longer be provided with provisioning services, meaning that they will gradually lose the ability to join networks, including the cellular network. I honestly don't get this. How can calls via the regular cellular network stop working reliably? I'm using a dumbphone that hasn't seen any updates in its entire lifetime and it still works reliably for making calls.
Blackberry was always the weird one out that effectively depended on special service from your provider combined with special tariffs for using them. This is a legacy from when they were explicitly enterprise devices and you couldn't exactly buy them normally. Similarly, the core functionality of the original BB - email - is no longer supported (though you can probably run it still) because the special server softwar…
The Z10 and Q10 were the first BB10 phones in 2013, and I believe BlackBerry only produced one more BBOS phone after that. After the Classic and Passport in late 2014, BlackBerry switched to Android with the Priv, KeyOne, and Key2 and essentially abandoned the BB10 OS and phones.