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Baffling neurological illness affects growing number of young adults

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Re: Baffling neurological illness affects growing number of young adults

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Pretty scary, can't wait to read the book on it in 10 years.

Unless this new pathogen is the pandemic that takes us to the brink of extinction.

New contagious prions? Bacteria that generate prions? Viruses that code for prions?

Re: Baffling neurological illness affects growing number of young adults

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Canadians are generally very satisfied with the quality and availability of healthcare in Canada. The issue in this case is not the quality of care but the possibility that the provincial government is suppressing testing that might reveal that a naturally-produced neurotoxin has contaminated bottom-feeding crustaceans such as lobster.

> Canadians are generally very satisfied with the quality and availability of healthcare. I'd love to see the list of people you surveyed to draw this conclusion. In my metropolitan area availability is abysmal and (in my experience recently) quality is not great. I am contrasting this to my recent experiences in the US system.

That makes some sense - US healthcare is great if you are wealthy and barely existent if you are not. Canada strikes me as middle of the road - moderate quality for nearly everyone.

If you are one of the lucky 10% at the top of the heap US healthcare will outperform.

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Canadian healthcare is scary, and it's made worse by these politicians that always go to the US for care. The joke is that it's gotten so progressive that no one gets better, we all have to equally suffer. You can see clearly how this situation was mishandled.

Canadians are generally very satisfied with the quality and availability of healthcare in Canada. The issue in this case is not the quality of care but the possibility that the provincial government is suppressing testing that might reveal that a naturally-produced neurotoxin has contaminated bottom-feeding crustaceans such as lobster.

Canadian healthcare is great if you have a life threatening acute problem or you have no ability to or willingness to pay for healthcare. If you have anything in the middle its a giant slog against a large bureaucracy to actually get it treated. And you have ti have some conviction in what it is otherwise diagnose and adios as they say.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Upvoted because that's solid advice. The problem is you may not know about polluted environments. This may well be the case of a private contractor burying very dangerous chemicals in a clearing in the woods and polluting the surroundings, in which case hiking there is not gonna do you any good. Environmental pollution is everywhere industrial capitalism is. All the major scandals about waste disposal in Europe (incl…

Environmental pollution is everywhere industrial capitalism is Also where industrial communism was? Where industrial democratic socialism is? Wouldn't it be more accurate to just say: where industrial humans are or have been?

Well that's a nitpicking argument which depends on your definitions. From what i understand, what you call "communism" i call "State capitalism" and what you call "democratic socialism" i call "liberal capitalism". Under all these systems, there's privileges: people who have more and people who have less, while communism is usually defined as a stateless/classless society (including by marxists).

> Wouldn't it be more accurate to just say: where industrial humans are or have been?

Indeed! Yet this formula ignores the ties between the two concepts. Industrialization and capitalism grew hand in hand with extractivism and colonization starting in the 16th century. Without the industry to build boats to exploit the overseas, capitalism could not exist: yet without massive accumulation of wealth, industry as we know it could not be created.

This is not to say pollution is impossible without capitalism. But capitalism as a social structure incentivizes not to care because there's no (immediate) profit involved in respecting your environment, and because there will always be more areas to exploit and pollute: our overlords are now openly talking of colonizing Mars once they're done fucking things up over here!

If you have intellectual curiosity for critiques of industrial capitalism, i strongly recommend the "End: Civ" documentary.

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post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Upvoted because that's solid advice. The problem is you may not know about polluted environments. This may well be the case of a private contractor burying very dangerous chemicals in a clearing in the woods and polluting the surroundings, in which case hiking there is not gonna do you any good. Environmental pollution is everywhere industrial capitalism is. All the major scandals about waste disposal in Europe (incl…

Environmental pollution is everywhere industrial capitalism is Also where industrial communism was? Where industrial democratic socialism is? Wouldn't it be more accurate to just say: where industrial humans are or have been?

Some might say that the Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

Re: Baffling neurological illness affects growing number of young adults

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Canadian healthcare is scary, and it's made worse by these politicians that always go to the US for care. The joke is that it's gotten so progressive that no one gets better, we all have to equally suffer. You can see clearly how this situation was mishandled.

Canadians are generally very satisfied with the quality and availability of healthcare in Canada. The issue in this case is not the quality of care but the possibility that the provincial government is suppressing testing that might reveal that a naturally-produced neurotoxin has contaminated bottom-feeding crustaceans such as lobster.

> Canadians are generally very satisfied with the quality and availability of healthcare in Canada.

If any of us are it's because of the pervasive anti-American propaganda spewn about.

My GF is from the Czech Republic (where we currently are) and since we got here she's been getting all her standard check ups done. Here she can make an appointment only a day in advance (as opposed to weeks or months out in Canada), there's no wait time (in Canada you usually wait even with an appointment) and dental/drugs are included in Czech Republic (in Canada only the most basic care is included, everything else is extra and quite expensive).

Czech Republic is seen as a second-rate EU country (at least what I've heard of it) but health care here is so far ahead of Canada we might as well be a third world country.

Edit - I should add, even before observing European health care, I knew a shocking amount of people who've gone to the US and even Mexico specifically for medical treatment. Canada's health care is abysmal, our politicians just convince everyone that everything is OK because it's "free" (never mind that we pay European-level taxes for far worse care).

Also, I come from the richest (per capita) Canadian province with the best health-care funding, which in my experience is the best in Canada, but still lacking...

Re: Baffling neurological illness affects growing number of young adults

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Canadian healthcare is scary, and it's made worse by these politicians that always go to the US for care. The joke is that it's gotten so progressive that no one gets better, we all have to equally suffer. You can see clearly how this situation was mishandled.

Canadian healthcare is indeed in rough shape. Our health outcomes have plateaued, wait times increased and costs rocketed. The inevitable nature of uncompetitive systems.

>Our health outcomes have plateaued

Healthcare is messy. That plateau might be the best we can accomplish given our current technology, science, healthcare, politics, and culture. It's not necessarily a measurement that always has to go up (like USA stocks).

If you want to put this on non-competitive systems, the USA has a competitive system and it is probably worse than Canada. If not completely worse, then certainly worse on major dimensions like cost and accessibility.

I'd be interested in what these health outcomes measured if you have a link handy.

Re: Baffling neurological illness affects growing number of young adults

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Seems obviously BMAA but clearly the government don’t want to say so because it will destroy the lobster industry. We should all be terrified of BMAA and it’s here because of climate change. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/01/190124110834.h... Climate change is making the oceans and fresh water toxic and very deadly. We’ve seriously fucked the earth. Have you ever heard weasel words more reminiscent of a c…

Not nitpicking but to clarify a bit, that study says "Such blooms are a regular feature of Australian inland waterways and are increasing due to nutrient run-off, reduced river flows and climate change." So while climate change (i.e., warming in targeted areas) doesn't help, it's more of the final nail in a series of nails we've been driving into Mother Nature's heart. The idea we could be so negligent and abusive of…

The leading cause of toxic algae blooms like this is nutrient runoff.

The leading cause of nutrient runoff is over-fertilization of industrialized farmland.

I've never heard of climate change associated with these until now, but I've only worked tangentially with these phenomenon, and am not an expert.

Re: Baffling neurological illness affects growing number of young adults

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I'm surprised that Chronic Wasting Disease (a prion disease similar to CJD or BSE but found in wild and farmed deer, moose etc) isn't mentioned. A quick search however brings up this article linking prion disease, sewage sludge pollution and these cases.

https://www.cp24.com/news/ask-questions-but-don-t-panic-abou...

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