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Re: Fiatjaf/nostr – a censorship-resistant alternative to Twitter

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No, you don't. You can have DNS-based aliases to pubkeys, and then people will follow pubkeys and interact with pubkeys, not with the DNS aliases. So if these users are censored later from the DNS then they still keep their identity, their contacts, their followers etc.

That's kind of like saying that people don't interact with domain names, but with IP addresses. The point of having the mapping of a name to a key is for users to use it in place of the underlying key in their interactions with the system.

The analogy would be valid if IP addresses were permanent and DNS was only consulted once -- and then communication between these two parties was done directly through the IP forever.

Re: Fiatjaf/nostr – a censorship-resistant alternative to Twitter

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This is not censorship resistant. Relays are external points of centralization. For all intents and purposes, they are federated service providers -- central services that can deplatform users by simply choosing not to syndicate their messages. Over time this will result in all relays being compromised by state adversaries. Legitimate "free speech" relays will be removed from the internet via ddos, legal complaints,…

Honestly, it's ridiculous that you claim that this basic client-server architecture "does not scale at all" and then proceed to recommend IPFS or "some sort of DHT", which are the things that were never tested at scale and theoretically cannot scale and will not scale past some thousands of users or tracked resources -- ever.

It's also ridiculous that you cite attacks at the infrastructure level that were not used to censor anyone so far -- because censorship happens always at a much higher level -- and then you just proceed to recommend an IPFS solution that is also subject to attacks at the infrastructure level, because everything is!

Re: Fiatjaf/nostr – a censorship-resistant alternative to Twitter

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post #96

This is not censorship resistant. Relays are external points of centralization. For all intents and purposes, they are federated service providers -- central services that can deplatform users by simply choosing not to syndicate their messages. Over time this will result in all relays being compromised by state adversaries. Legitimate "free speech" relays will be removed from the internet via ddos, legal complaints,…

> Both domain names, ARIN/RIPE/etc IP assignments, and BGP peering relationships are historically subject to revocation via a loud chorus of complainers when the speakers are politically unpersoned.

Do you have any examples of this? The only deplatforming I'm familiar with is the removal of accounts from websites, though yes that may include a cloud provider's website. I'm not familiar with any IP address related or BGP based filtering by any actor that isn't nation-state funded (for which a system like Tor is necessary.) There's also the GNU Name System as a DHT based domain name system.

Re: Fiatjaf/nostr – a censorship-resistant alternative to Twitter

#144

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> Even just a short exposure to these things can be life traumatizing to people, as it has been to me +1. When I was younger I used to browse 4chan somewhat regularly. I saw snuff videos and other awful content that I still think about to this day. My life would have been better had I not seen it.

My life would have been way better if I had 1 million dollars at birth. Let's restructure society and sacrifice everybody's fundamental liberties to ensure a better life for me.

Funny enough, the rich actually already do this for themselves.
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