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Re: New Temperature Records for the UK

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Post by gruez » Sat, Jan 01, 2022, 9:03 PM UTC

Yuioup wrote: post #26

throwaway5752 wrote: post #16

I see people talking about weather getting unpredictable. This was predictable, and was predicted: https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/wg1/ . The technical summary is 160 pages and should be required reading for anyone over the age of 13: https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/wg1/downloads/report/IPCC_AR6... . The Paris Agreement, for all its problems, tries to keep increase below 1.5 C over pre-industrial. We are locked in for…

How do you 'retire on software'. I'm a software engineer and I have nowhere near enough savings for retirement, not even close.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29691039

make half a million dollars per year total comp, duh.

Re: New Temperature Records for the UK

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Post by f311a » Sat, Jan 01, 2022, 9:10 PM UTC

throwaway5752 wrote: post #16

I see people talking about weather getting unpredictable. This was predictable, and was predicted: https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/wg1/ . The technical summary is 160 pages and should be required reading for anyone over the age of 13: https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/wg1/downloads/report/IPCC_AR6... . The Paris Agreement, for all its problems, tries to keep increase below 1.5 C over pre-industrial. We are locked in for…

Unfortunately, educating people is very hard and covid-19 clearly shows it.

Re: New Temperature Records for the UK

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Post by kerneloftruth » Sat, Jan 01, 2022, 9:11 PM UTC

throwaway5752 wrote: post #16

I see people talking about weather getting unpredictable. This was predictable, and was predicted: https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/wg1/ . The technical summary is 160 pages and should be required reading for anyone over the age of 13: https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/wg1/downloads/report/IPCC_AR6... . The Paris Agreement, for all its problems, tries to keep increase below 1.5 C over pre-industrial. We are locked in for…

I'm genuinely curious: does "technical and political work to keep Earth habitable for subsequent generations" include efforts to reduce the earth's population size? I ask this because sometimes such efforts fail to address the root cause, often deliberately.

Re: New Temperature Records for the UK

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Post by michaelcampbell » Sat, Jan 01, 2022, 9:12 PM UTC

jacquesm wrote: post #80

hardlianotion wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same here in France. Chased a bumblebee out of my living room and any number of confused flies. The weather has gone from unusually deep and early snow to scenes resembling later spring. Similarly confused weather patterns in West Africa in the last few years - the regular weather pattern of my youth seems to be breaking down into something altogether less reliable and worrying.

It's pretty wild. People keep saying that 'climate change is happening too slow to be noticed over a human life span', but I actually think that isn't true, it is in fact very noticeable. The winters from my youth are gone and my parents thought that the ones in the 70's were mild (with one or two exceptions). Here we now have essentially 6 months of autumn that switches straight into an early summer.

> People keep saying that 'climate change is happening too slow to be noticed over a human life span',

No one seriously says this, unless they're pushing their own anti-science narrative.

Re: New Temperature Records for the UK

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Post by nemo44x » Sat, Jan 01, 2022, 9:14 PM UTC

irthomasthomas wrote: post #68

polotics wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is not going to be a little warmer: do you know about averages? Two degree higher average temperatures means many European forests will burn and not recuperate. With four, even Ireland desertifies. Climate change is only just getting started, by the time people like you realize action is needed, it will be much too much too late. The movie "don't look up" comes to mind.

Desertification was predicted but it didn't happen. The earth has greened instead. https://www.nasa.gov/feature/greening-of-the-earth-mitigates...

But you won’t get funding saying this. You need to make your subject of study a crisis in order to secure the funding to study it further. And of course the politicians that unlock the funding would do well if your model could align with their re-election strategy.

Re: New Temperature Records for the UK

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Post by jacquesm » Sat, Jan 01, 2022, 9:15 PM UTC

michaelcampbell wrote: post #84

jacquesm wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's pretty wild. People keep saying that 'climate change is happening too slow to be noticed over a human life span', but I actually think that isn't true, it is in fact very noticeable. The winters from my youth are gone and my parents thought that the ones in the 70's were mild (with one or two exceptions). Here we now have essentially 6 months of autumn that switches straight into an early summer.

> People keep saying that 'climate change is happening too slow to be noticed over a human life span', No one seriously says this, unless they're pushing their own anti-science narrative.

I think they mean this as in 'compared to a road accident' (or a pandemic, for that matter).

Re: New Temperature Records for the UK

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Post by jacquesm » Sat, Jan 01, 2022, 9:18 PM UTC

wedn3sday wrote: post #46

Alternative reading: this is the coldest winter in the next century.

That has a fairly high probability of being true. And it's very scary if true.

Re: New Temperature Records for the UK

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Post by wazoox » Sat, Jan 01, 2022, 9:20 PM UTC

This is very menacing, more than could seem at first glance. All sort of crops could bloom much too soon, and be destroyed at the next cold event. And every summer from now on, we'll be under the menace of an extreme hot event destroying major cereal crops around the world. Global food shortage could be around the corner every year, forever. Combine that with a looming fossil fuel supply crunch, and we're on the verge of civilisational collapse, just like that.

Re: New Temperature Records for the UK

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Post by teh_klev » Sat, Jan 01, 2022, 9:37 PM UTC

s_dev wrote: post #37

It was 16 Celcius in Ireland yesterday. I have my window wide open in the middle of winter to cool the apartment. I can appreciate climate != weather. However it is a very odd warming event.

I had my patio doors open at midnight last night in rural Perthshire and was just wearing a t-shirt (and jeans). I thought I had "the fever", but upon checking the met forecast I was gobsmacked to see the temperature at around 15C. Yet only two days before I was scraping ice off of the car.

Re: New Temperature Records for the UK

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Post by tremon » Sat, Jan 01, 2022, 9:37 PM UTC

irthomasthomas wrote: post #30

It was 15C NYE and the record was 18.0C at Abergwyngregyn, Gwynedd in 1972. I am pretty happy to be honest, considering the fuel crisis, this is a blessing to some. I am not convinced that life everywhere will suddenly be terrible just because it is a little warmer. We had warm periods before and things got better. The Late Bronze Warm Period, The Roman Warm period, and the Middle Age Warm Period. https://imgr.search…

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/greening-of-the-earth-mitigates...

And what exactly is the point you think you're making with that? From the link:

> Stopping deforestation and ecologically sensible large-scale tree-planting could be one simple, but not sufficient, defense against climate change.

So "global greening" is an anthropogenic phenomenon to counter global climate change. It actually confirms that we humans have the means and the possibility to meaningfully impact the climate, and that some of those efforts are proven effective.

Is that what you were trying to say?