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New Temperature Records for the UK

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Re: New Temperature Records for the UK

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Post by coolso »

mhh__ wrote: post #17
iqanq wrote: post #3

Given the terrible problems we are having with energy prices, I will interpret this as God laying His hands upon us :P

As far as I'm aware, the Bible does instruct the faithful Christian to look after god's creation. Considering the zeal of American Christianity, this has apparently been lost on many (i.e. the cold atheists in Europe are doing a better job).

Perhaps there is a knowledge that behind every politician claiming to want to care for the environment, it means more money taken out of their pockets, among many other shady ulterior “progressive” motives. They see through the BS, in other words.

Most people want to look after God’s creation. They just don’t want to get screwed over by politicians in the process, nor do they necessarily want to buy into the false prophet scientists who have been claiming the end is nigh regarding this subject for decades now (always pushing the new end further down the line, but this time it’s for real, they swear!)

Re: New Temperature Records for the UK

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Post by dijit »

lordnacho wrote: post #13

This is good if you pay for energy in the UK. Prices have shot up recently, and there are fears that a lot of people will get surprised if the winter is chilly. Of course we've yet to see how it plays out. Friends on mine in the energy business think it could get really really bad if it's cold.

Much in the same way that burning down your house is a comfort for those who cannot afford their gas bill?

Re: New Temperature Records for the UK

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Post by jonp888 »

throwaway5752 wrote: post #16

I see people talking about weather getting unpredictable. This was predictable, and was predicted: https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/wg1/ . The technical summary is 160 pages and should be required reading for anyone over the age of 13: https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/wg1/downloads/report/IPCC_AR6... . The Paris Agreement, for all its problems, tries to keep increase below 1.5 C over pre-industrial. We are locked in for…

I do, I just don't see any pointles in fighting a hopeless war that is already lost.

Re: New Temperature Records for the UK

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Post by cheschire »

throwaway5752 wrote: post #16

I see people talking about weather getting unpredictable. This was predictable, and was predicted: https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/wg1/ . The technical summary is 160 pages and should be required reading for anyone over the age of 13: https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/wg1/downloads/report/IPCC_AR6... . The Paris Agreement, for all its problems, tries to keep increase below 1.5 C over pre-industrial. We are locked in for…

I suspect people tend to mean unstable when they say unpredictable. Not that they think science is unable to see what’s happening.

Re: New Temperature Records for the UK

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Post by DaiPlusPlus »

coolso wrote: post #21
mhh__ wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As far as I'm aware, the Bible does instruct the faithful Christian to look after god's creation. Considering the zeal of American Christianity, this has apparently been lost on many (i.e. the cold atheists in Europe are doing a better job).

Perhaps there is a knowledge that behind every politician claiming to want to care for the environment, it means more money taken out of their pockets, among many other shady ulterior “progressive” motives. They see through the BS, in other words. Most people want to look after God’s creation. They just don’t want to get screwed over by politicians in the process, nor do they necessarily want to buy into the false pr…

> nor do they necessarily want to buy into the false prophet scientists who have been claiming the end is nigh regarding this subject for decades now (always pushing the new end further down the line, but this time it’s for real, they swear!)

I see your straw-man.

Re: New Temperature Records for the UK

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Post by Yuioup »

throwaway5752 wrote: post #16

I see people talking about weather getting unpredictable. This was predictable, and was predicted: https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/wg1/ . The technical summary is 160 pages and should be required reading for anyone over the age of 13: https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/wg1/downloads/report/IPCC_AR6... . The Paris Agreement, for all its problems, tries to keep increase below 1.5 C over pre-industrial. We are locked in for…

How do you 'retire on software'. I'm a software engineer and I have nowhere near enough savings for retirement, not even close.

Re: New Temperature Records for the UK

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Post by samwillis »

lordnacho wrote: post #13

This is good if you pay for energy in the UK. Prices have shot up recently, and there are fears that a lot of people will get surprised if the winter is chilly. Of course we've yet to see how it plays out. Friends on mine in the energy business think it could get really really bad if it's cold.

I think you are right, there is certainly a lot of people here hoping for a very mild winter. Hopefully the relief from rising energy prices this winter doesn’t distract from the bigger picture of climate change, but we must also not be dismissive of those in need.

There are so many people in the UK who have to make difficult choices each winter about heating their house or spending elsewhere. It’s estimated to be 1 in 10 households (3m people)[0]. So we can take a small amount of comfort that in the short term that this is help for them, but we must as a society address both these problems (income inequality and climate change)

0: https://amp.theguardian.com/society/2021/nov/25/one-in-10-uk...

Re: New Temperature Records for the UK

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Post by DaiPlusPlus »

irrational wrote: post #15
iqanq wrote: post #3

Given the terrible problems we are having with energy prices, I will interpret this as God laying His hands upon us :P

Why? We seem to be doing a great job of punishing ourselves.

> We seem to be doing a great job of punishing ourselves.

We're not all Catholic

Re: New Temperature Records for the UK

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Post by breakyerself »

Record high temps outnumber record lows by 2:1. The planet is hotter than its been in 100,000 years. Co2 levels are higher than they've been in 800,000 years. 4 Hiroshima bombs per second worth of extra heat energy are being trapped in the climate system by the co2 we've emitted. The oceans are 25% more acidic because of how much of our co2 has been absorbed by the oceans. Absolute humidity has increased 7% because a warmer atmosphere can hold more moisture and warmer oceans evaporate more readily.

Re: New Temperature Records for the UK

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Post by irthomasthomas »

It was 15C NYE and the record was 18.0C at Abergwyngregyn, Gwynedd in 1972.

I am pretty happy to be honest, considering the fuel crisis, this is a blessing to some. I am not convinced that life everywhere will suddenly be terrible just because it is a little warmer. We had warm periods before and things got better. The Late Bronze Warm Period, The Roman Warm period, and the Middle Age Warm Period.

https://imgr.search.brave.com/v3hRyzU6Mm1ShpkX2Z4SEYasQRtDD-...

Also see global greening https://www.nasa.gov/feature/greening-of-the-earth-mitigates...

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