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Belgian scientific base in Antarctica engulfed by Covid despite strict measures

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Re: Belgian scientific base in Antarctica engulfed by Covid despite strict measures

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The AMA doesn't want an oversupply of competition.

False. The current physician shortage is primarily caused by insufficient federal funding for medical residencies. Every year there are doctors who graduate from medical school but are never allowed to practice medicine because they can't get matched to a residency program. The AMA has been lobbying Congress to increase the supply for years. https://www.ama-assn.org/press-center/press-releases/ama-fun...

>Every year there are doctors who graduate from medical school but are never allowed to practice medicine because they can't get matched to a residency program.

Aren't 99% of unmatched, graduates of sketchy overseas medical schools?

Re: Belgian scientific base in Antarctica engulfed by Covid despite strict measures

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> ineffective I don't think it's clear evidence of this, but you could definitely say it's not 100% effective. Whether it is useful is not something that you cannot determine from this story alone.

I think if you take the strictest possible quarantine and test paradigms and even those are failing, its certainly fair to call them ineffective.

It would be to anyone thinking about this logically, but belief in the measures seems to have become like a religion to some. The craziest discussion I had about this was with a friend who insisted the number of administered tests for a given location hadn't risen in 2021. I showed them the official government stats but they still claimed there hadn't been a rise. When I sent them a graph they said they'd looked at it and it confirms there was no rise. The graph showed a clear rise, like line going straight up!

How do you even deal with this? I can have more rational discussions with fundamental Christians.

Re: Belgian scientific base in Antarctica engulfed by Covid despite strict measures

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No mandates. No vaccine passbooks or apps. Return jobs to employees lost because of vaccine compliance/rebuild small businesses (If this is somehow possible but the damage is already done). No mask requirements. Covid-19 Vaccines are available and treated in the same way as flu vaccines once FDA approved. Yknow, normal.

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Re: Belgian scientific base in Antarctica engulfed by Covid despite strict measures

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No mandates. No vaccine passbooks or apps. Return jobs to employees lost because of vaccine compliance/rebuild small businesses (If this is somehow possible but the damage is already done). No mask requirements. Covid-19 Vaccines are available and treated in the same way as flu vaccines once FDA approved. Yknow, normal.

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IIRC, this is a well known rhetoric technique: flood the opponent with irrelevant facts, so he doesnt have time to refute them all. But that's for in person debates, with finite time to respond.

Re: Belgian scientific base in Antarctica engulfed by Covid despite strict measures

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Gee, maybe because you can't stop such a virus? I legitimately am curious about any decent intelligence test being done among the people who truly believe in measures like masks, restrictions, and even vaccines.Though i know that ironically the first or second biggest group to not get vaccinated are people with 1 or more PhDs, but people who think these are long-term solutions, or any solutions at all are pretty delusional.And this has been partially proven: Sweden is doing fine, Florida is doing fine, any region that hasn't been building up hotbeds of infectious sedentary people is doing kind of fine, at least compared to the "predictions of specialists".Now this is not a cut&dry issue, partially the biggest factor for this is because the more urban lifestyle you have, the bigger the health problems, but that's precisely why the lockdowns will never work.

Stay safe & HN(Y) everyone.I don't think it will soon be over, because this "pandemic"[it's actually more like an endemic disease but whatever] has stopped being about health since half into 2020, and politicians & people in any power don't have any incentives and reasons to let the power go.Especially not until the 1984 measures are all put in place.

Re: Belgian scientific base in Antarctica engulfed by Covid despite strict measures

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The CDC recently admitted as much. People can test positive for covid weeks after initially testing positive. Which implies they still are shedding the virus. https://twitter.com/abc/status/1476189028982702080?s=21

Not a native speaker. Just to clarify: shedding the virus means being infectious? Or just their body is still doing cleanup but not necessarily that the virus is still intact and contagious/infectious? (The dictionary entry for shedding doesn't feel specific enough to draw conclusions from.)

Yes shedding like a dogs coat, but bits of virus. This is the main pathway of transmission. The pieces that are being shed are active and infectious.

Re: Belgian scientific base in Antarctica engulfed by Covid despite strict measures

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With a minuscule fatality rate at this point, all these measures seem like a massive waste of energy and resources. Masks, vaccines, dividers, hand sanitizer… none of it actually stops transmission. Spare everyone from this godawful ceremony.

I think of it as a fire drill, a preparation for a real fire. Just trying to find some rationale in this madness.

Re: Belgian scientific base in Antarctica engulfed by Covid despite strict measures

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False. The current physician shortage is primarily caused by insufficient federal funding for medical residencies. Every year there are doctors who graduate from medical school but are never allowed to practice medicine because they can't get matched to a residency program. The AMA has been lobbying Congress to increase the supply for years. https://www.ama-assn.org/press-center/press-releases/ama-fun...

>Every year there are doctors who graduate from medical school but are never allowed to practice medicine because they can't get matched to a residency program. Aren't 99% of unmatched, graduates of sketchy overseas medical schools?

Typically about 5% of medical school graduates don't get matched, although some of those do get in later.

https://www.ama-assn.org/residents-students/match/if-you-re-...

As for overseas medical schools, the National Committee on Foreign Medical Education and Accreditation is supposed to ensure they meet the same standards as domestic schools. I haven't seen any real evidence that they're sketchy.

https://sites.ed.gov/ncfmea/

Re: Belgian scientific base in Antarctica engulfed by Covid despite strict measures

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As someone who has had pneumonia, it's not an "Old Man's Friend". There's nothing "peaceful" about pneumonia. It's a very frightening strangling feeling. The only thing "peaceful" about it is that you don't have the energy express the horror.

This was related to me by my father, who had pneumonia as a teen and it nearly killed him. He was allergic to penicillin, and had to endure without it.

Did he really say "we all got pneumonia in our lungs"? Pneumonia is inflammation in your lungs, that isn't normal. You die from it when it fills your lungs with pus and blood, pus and blood in your lungs isn't normal either.

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As someone who has had pneumonia, it's not an "Old Man's Friend". There's nothing "peaceful" about pneumonia. It's a very frightening strangling feeling. The only thing "peaceful" about it is that you don't have the energy express the horror.

This was related to me by my father, who had pneumonia as a teen and it nearly killed him. He was allergic to penicillin, and had to endure without it.

Looks like the phrase was written about in 1892. Probably it's older than that, though.

> The term is attributed to William Osler, who in the first edition of his book The Principles and Practice of Medicine (1892) wrote:

> In children and in healthy adults the outlook is good. In the debilitated, in drunkards and in the aged the chances are against recovery. So fatal is it in the latter class [i.e. the elderly] that it has been termed the natural end of the old man.

https://pneumonia.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s41479-...

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