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Mozilla Openness facts
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Re: Mozilla Openness facts
#12This built-in firefox page was new to me... about:crashes
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#13Video shows tab in a browser as innovation from Mozilla. Opera anyone?
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#14Video shows tab in a browser as innovation from Mozilla. Opera anyone?
Eh, nope. The history of tabbed browsing is complicated. Neither Opera nor Firefox were the first to start using it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tabbed_browsing
You could say that Firefox brought it to the mainstream, as for many people that was the first introduction to it.
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#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
Don't go through as in a technical problem or don't get a response? I'd be happy to ask around and try to see what might be going on with a technical problem if you send me the details of what happens when you try to post.
I'm not sure if it's a technical problem or if it's moderation, but I usually post from my email client and then later look on Google Groups to see if they show up there. Some times they do, some times not. When I post from Google Groups they seem to go through and show up twice, so I try and avoid posting that way.
It's a technical problem. The lists have a weird two-way email/NNTP bridge, and Google Groups is on the NNTP side. Frequently Google Groups falls behind the actual newsgroup, sometimes for several days at a time, e.g. http://bugzil.la/667637
When that happens, you can point an NNTP client (like Thunderbird) at news.mozilla.org to see if your message actually went through.
Re: Mozilla Openness facts
#16Video shows tab in a browser as innovation from Mozilla. Opera anyone?
Eh, nope. The history of tabbed browsing is complicated. Neither Opera nor Firefox were the first to start using it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tabbed_browsing You could say that Firefox brought it to the mainstream, as for many people that was the first introduction to it.
So Mozilla is jwz's name for the Netscape code that they open sourced. Does anybody know if there is a continual code-base going back through Firefox to Mozilla to Netscape to Mosaic? In which case, they could claim, they invented it all.
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#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
Eh, nope. The history of tabbed browsing is complicated. Neither Opera nor Firefox were the first to start using it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tabbed_browsing You could say that Firefox brought it to the mainstream, as for many people that was the first introduction to it.
So Mozilla is jwz's name for the Netscape code that they open sourced. Does anybody know if there is a continual code-base going back through Firefox to Mozilla to Netscape to Mosaic? In which case, they could claim, they invented it all.
From my vague understanding of the history, Mozilla code goes all the way to Netscape. I think Netscape did a giant rewrite, so it probably doesn't go back further.
Technically, firefox is the browser front-end to the Mozilla codebase, and Thunderbird is another front-end of the same product. I think what used to be called the Mozilla suite is now seamonkey. So I think it all comes from the Netscape release.
Certainly, whenever I touch the build system, the copyright notices are from 1998, say Netscape and mention jwz. Example: https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/configure.in
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#18This built-in firefox page was new to me... about:crashes
Chrome has an about:crashes as well; but more importantly, both browsers have an about:about, which list all their about pages.
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#19This built-in firefox page was new to me... about:crashes
It's also available in Chrome, although when I try to open it on my account, it says crash reporting is disabled.
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#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
Eh, nope. The history of tabbed browsing is complicated. Neither Opera nor Firefox were the first to start using it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tabbed_browsing You could say that Firefox brought it to the mainstream, as for many people that was the first introduction to it.
So Mozilla is jwz's name for the Netscape code that they open sourced. Does anybody know if there is a continual code-base going back through Firefox to Mozilla to Netscape to Mosaic? In which case, they could claim, they invented it all.
There isn't.
jwz mentions that he was unsuccessful lobbying the release of the 3.0 source.[1] For the purposes of this discussion (since you only ask about the browser here), according to Brendan, 4 was like 3.[2] Seibel mentions there that Brendan says he tried to get it released, too. The big rewrite that everybody talks about is Gecko (under the stewardship of Gessner, I think), when 5 got ditched and the next release jumped to 6. It's still listed on the MXR homepage (under Classic). Then, ho-ho, there came another new flavor at the genesis of Firefox proper, Aviary, which is also indexed on MXR. I don't know what sets it apart from pre-Aviary besides that it ditched the old XPInstall stuff. (Yeah, XPIs still exist, but most people don't realize that's not XPInstall anymore. That's the new-ish "toolkit" install system.)
1. http://www.jwz.org/blog/2009/09/that-duct-tape-silliness/
2. http://gigamonkeys.wordpress.com/2010/03/07/two-rewrites-red...