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Re: Programming languages and frameworks to learn in 2022

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Post by xupybd »

If you are learning to broaden your knowledge I'd suggest learning the SAFE stack.

It's not likely to take off to be the next big thing but it's robust and interesting. Learning functional programming is helping me in more conventional programming. The insights you get are pretty neat. Like the .then function on a promise is really a map function.

So far I've enjoyed watching a guy on YouTube put together a little stock monitoring app in the safe stack. https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWtGeD5k0ryhV0Fq-_n9OADe1...

Reading the Elmish book has also been really interesting. https://zaid-ajaj.github.io/the-elmish-book/#/ It's amazing how good the documentation is for such a niche.

And setting up strong types helps you plan your code structure, it is a really helpful way. Then the compiler helps keep you to that design. F# is just really interesting to learn.

Re: Programming languages and frameworks to learn in 2022

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Post by factorialboy »

xupybd wrote: post #11

If you are learning to broaden your knowledge I'd suggest learning the SAFE stack. It's not likely to take off to be the next big thing but it's robust and interesting. Learning functional programming is helping me in more conventional programming. The insights you get are pretty neat. Like the .then function on a promise is really a map function. So far I've enjoyed watching a guy on YouTube put together a little st…

For those wondering what is SAFE stack:

* Saturn for back-end services in F#

* Azure as a hosting platform plus associated platform services

* Fable for running F# in the web browser

* Elmish for client-side user interfaces

(from https://safe-stack.github.io/docs/overview/)

Azure is the only safe'ish choice on this list, and there too I'd avoid lock-ins.

Re: Programming languages and frameworks to learn in 2022

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Post by open-source-ux »

The Crystal programming language is very nice. It is a typed, compiled language with excellent performance. The syntax is inspired by Ruby but is not identical to Ruby (by design).

The all-important version 1.0 milestone was reached in March 2021. The next version (1.3) is scheduled for release in January 2022.

Some downsides to Crystal:

- No Windows version: Estimate for a Windows version is still not known - this will obviously turn away Windows developers. Crystal can be run via WSL (Windows Sub-system for Linux), but it's not ideal.

- Slow(ish) compilation.

- Small community: This isn't necessarily a problem, but as a new language you won't find the same learning resources and online discussions as more popular languages. However, the standard library is quite well fleshed out.

https://crystal-lang.org/

Re: Programming languages and frameworks to learn in 2022

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Post by charlieyu1 »

rahen wrote: post #9
leephillips wrote: post #2

It depends on what you want to do. For scientific or other high-performance computing: Julia For scripting, writing Pandoc filters, extending NeoVim, doing magic with TeX: Lua For web applications: Elixir with LiveView.

Unfortunately there are few domain specific libraries available for Julia, like astropy. We're in the same situation with Julia than 10 years ago when we started moving from IDL to Python. It was painful as Python wasn't born a scientific language, it awkwardly became so with numarray, numpy, numba, pandas, matplotlib, numexpr, scipy, pythran, scikit and whatever never-ending additional mess it requires. At least Jul…

It is also a pain to learn some of these libraries in Python where they are basically just wrappers

Re: Programming languages and frameworks to learn in 2022

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Post by quda »

rahen wrote: post #9
leephillips wrote: post #2

It depends on what you want to do. For scientific or other high-performance computing: Julia For scripting, writing Pandoc filters, extending NeoVim, doing magic with TeX: Lua For web applications: Elixir with LiveView.

Unfortunately there are few domain specific libraries available for Julia, like astropy. We're in the same situation with Julia than 10 years ago when we started moving from IDL to Python. It was painful as Python wasn't born a scientific language, it awkwardly became so with numarray, numpy, numba, pandas, matplotlib, numexpr, scipy, pythran, scikit and whatever never-ending additional mess it requires. At least Jul…

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Re: Programming languages and frameworks to learn in 2022

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Post by phillipcarter »

open-source-ux wrote: post #14

The Crystal programming language is very nice. It is a typed, compiled language with excellent performance. The syntax is inspired by Ruby but is not identical to Ruby (by design). The all-important version 1.0 milestone was reached in March 2021. The next version (1.3) is scheduled for release in January 2022. Some downsides to Crystal: - No Windows version: Estimate for a Windows version is still not known - this w…

Crystal was fun to learn for Advent of Code, especially as someone who has zero Ruby experience. Felt weird, but in a good way, and ticked off a lot of the boxes I like in languages (decent type inference, static types, good standard library, reasonable toolset, etc.)

Re: Programming languages and frameworks to learn in 2022

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Post by JaggerJo »

I think F# has a bright future ahead.

It’s the language of choice at our startup and we couldn’t be happier.

We target .NET and the browser (via. Fable - a F# to JS Compiler).

Right now new target languages are added to fable (python, rust, ?) so this could be a really nice way to tap into whatever ecosystem you need.

Re: Programming languages and frameworks to learn in 2022

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Post by sundarurfriend »

open-source-ux wrote: post #14

The Crystal programming language is very nice. It is a typed, compiled language with excellent performance. The syntax is inspired by Ruby but is not identical to Ruby (by design). The all-important version 1.0 milestone was reached in March 2021. The next version (1.3) is scheduled for release in January 2022. Some downsides to Crystal: - No Windows version: Estimate for a Windows version is still not known - this w…

I was considering Crystal for Advent of Code. But when I checked it out, it seemed a lot of the shards (packages) had last commits in the "2-4 years ago" range. And one of the links in the official website's Community page (https://crystal-lang.org/community) lead to a domain squatter page (crystalshards.xyz), which raised questions of staleness.

It seems to have since been fixed to https://crystalshards.org, which does work, so I guess I just caught it in an unfortunate transitional period. I'll give Crystal a look again, thanks for the recommendation.

(Also, I didn't know about downside 1 (no Windows version) - I guess that partly explains the small community.)

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