Is that possible to have some kind of "global" twitter like feed or search by tags to find some people to follow?
Fiatjaf/nostr – a censorship-resistant alternative to Twitter
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#112Earlier quoted context omitted.
> How do you get the majority of people to switch to something like this? This is really the wrong focus. Everyone should be focused on how to "mainstream" this in the minds of content creators, organizations, institutions, and media. The audience will find these subjects because they have a certain gravity to attract followers. This is why, in my mind, if the federated open web wants to "succeed" (spoilers, it hasn'…
chicken or the egg? Why would a content creator, org, institution, and media use a new app with no users? All of the above publish to twitter because Twitter's "bizarre techniques to keep you addicted" and "doesn't show an actual historical feed from people you follow"
you know, there are a lot of interesting parallels with the early adoption of the internet.
I remember back in the 90s there was a time when no one had their own web site, but you couldn't listen to 15 minutes of news without someone telling you their AOL "keyword".
Things are very similar today, in a way.
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#113Banning people is an upside. Setting boundaries of acceptable behaviour is necessary for having a space where people won't be troll-brigaded and hate-swarmed, and where the worst people on the internet don't drive out everyone else.
Seems like an acceptable position to take until you find yourself outside of the boundaries of acceptable behavior.
Personally, I don't mind having to manually filter/ignore non-conformant behavior in order to prevent that possibility for myself and any other minority group online.
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#114I think we have all seen what happens when a platform has no moderation whatsoever. And a good many of us feel like it goes too far on the platforms that do. Where’s the middle ground? Is there one? Maybe social media is just a bad idea—who does it really benefit anyway?
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#115Earlier quoted context omitted.
Censorship is a given for large online platforms. You can and should try to allow free propagation of ideas, but you also have to protect the forum from people who are determined to fill it with hateful commentary and pornography. 4chan isn’t a crazy special case, it’s the default destination of a forum where everyone knows there are no rules.
In particular, it used to be called "forum moderation" until that was deliberately conflated with censorship by far-right groups, angry at their loss of audience, starting I guess somewhere around 2010.
That's because forums generally have topics and rules. If we're in a forum about sports cars and you're constantly starting adversarial threads about city planning and parking, then mods would probably censor you to keep the forum on topic. Places like Facebook advertise themselves as the "town square of the web". Traditionally nobody was censored in the town square. There's a difference between purpose built communities and the general network of communication.
The term moderation itself often came from debate and discussion venues where moderators would police speeches.
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#116> it does not rely on P2P techniques, therefore it works. followed by > To publish something, you write a post, sign it with your key and send it to multiple relays (servers hosted by someone else, or yourself). To get updates from other people, you ask multiple relays if they know anything about these other people. Anyone can run a relay. Sounds pretty much like P2P techniques to me.
Sounds like p2p with supernodes, like the GNUTELLA network (limewire) used.
Seems more like torrent trackers to me.
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#117Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Censorship at the scale Big Tech does today would be equivalent to the vBulletin developers baking admin backdoors into the software so that they could censor other people's instances of it. No it wouldn't. As big as Facebook is, they still only moderate their own platform, and there is only one instance of Facebook. Separate vBulletin instances do not constitute a single, collective "vBulletin platform." The narra…
> there is only one instance of Facebook. That's my point. The reason vBulletin forum moderators aren't equivalent to Big Tech censorship is that you can run your own vBulletin, independent of theirs. Censorship of Facebook is bad because that isn't an option.
It absolutely is an option! There are open source social media projects out there that you can fork and start hosting today, if you want. Or you can use one of the existing alternatives. It's just that not many people use them right now, because Big Tech "censorship" has done a pretty good (definitely not perfect) job of just targeting bad actors. If a large non-toxic chunk of the population starts getting banned, non-toxic alternative platforms will become viable for the network effects that power social media centralization. Until then, the alternatives will look like Voat and Gab, and it seems like the online public doesn't love platforms that are dominated by the toxic castoffs from more mainstream platforms.
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#118Earlier quoted context omitted.
In particular, it used to be called "forum moderation" until that was deliberately conflated with censorship by far-right groups, angry at their loss of audience, starting I guess somewhere around 2010.
That's because forums generally have topics and rules. If we're in a forum about sports cars and you're constantly starting adversarial threads about city planning and parking, then mods would probably censor you to keep the forum on topic. Places like Facebook advertise themselves as the "town square of the web". Traditionally nobody was censored in the town square. There's a difference between purpose built communi…
> Traditionally nobody was censored in the town square.
This isn't true, it's just that the spatial constraints IRL mean there's never been a need to scale moderation of town squares beyond intuitive methods. Go to your physical town square and start screaming slurs and threats of violence at passers-by, and see how long it takes before the community "censors" you.
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#119Earlier quoted context omitted.
> there is only one instance of Facebook. That's my point. The reason vBulletin forum moderators aren't equivalent to Big Tech censorship is that you can run your own vBulletin, independent of theirs. Censorship of Facebook is bad because that isn't an option.
It absolutely is an option! There are open source social media projects out there that you can fork and start hosting today, if you want. Or you can use one of the existing alternatives. It's just that not many people use them right now, because Big Tech "censorship" has done a pretty good (definitely not perfect) job of just targeting bad actors. If a large non-toxic chunk of the population starts getting banned, no…
>If a large non-toxic chunk of the population starts getting banned, non-toxic alternative platforms will become viable for the network effects that power social media centralization.
Case in point: a number of Youtubers fed up with the platform demonetizing and delisting their content are advertising their content on other video platforms, or just hosting their own like Corridor Digital.
The web is one of the few examples of the free market actually working, but people have fallen for the defeatist and nihilistic narrative about the "centralization" of the web and "control" by sinister forces, insisting that competition with any big platform is simply impossible.
They said that about MySpace too and look what happened.
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#120I'm using branle ( https://branle.fiatjaf.com/ ) as my client and you can follow me with my pubkey: 22e804d26ed16b68db5259e78449e96dab5d464c8f470bda3eb1a70467f2c793. You can find my pubring on my bio after following me. There's no ability to discover others at this time! Nostr relay registry hosted here ( https://nostr-registry.netlify.app ) by fiatjaf. Exciting times!
You may know it already but "branle" means jerking off in French.