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Germany shuts down half of its remaining nuclear plants

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Re: Germany shuts down half of its remaining nuclear plants

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Post by pphysch »

SavantIdiot wrote: post #40
maxclark wrote: post #12

Nuclear power is an amazing energy source. It doesn’t look like we’ll ever get beyond the politics that would make small scale It’s really a shame.

It's not politics. It is a practical reality that it is dangerous. As dangerous as coal plants. But for some reason HN likes to turn a blind eye to un-disposable toxic waste and the potential for citywide devastation (Chernobyl).

Devastation is a strong word. The restricted area around Chernobyl is incredibly wild and lush right now. It's just humans that don't want to live there for credible health concerns.

Excessive resource extraction causes devastation.

Re: Germany shuts down half of its remaining nuclear plants

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Post by rmbyrro »

RivieraKid wrote: post #29

I'm sad that the UK has left the EU. Out of Germany, France and the UK, they always seemed like the voice of reason and the least bureaucratic. I can't exactly pinpoint why I think that but here are some examples - (1) they don't make ridiculous policy decisions such as shutting down nuclear power plants (ok, leaving the EU is an exception to this) (2) best at e-government (3) seems like a good environment for startu…

Maybe Brittons got tired of so many ridiculous policies from the EU shoving down their throats?...

Not saying I'm pro or against Brexit, just that your point seems to corroborate their decision to leave.

Re: Germany shuts down half of its remaining nuclear plants

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Post by pydry »

maxclark wrote: post #12

Nuclear power is an amazing energy source. It doesn’t look like we’ll ever get beyond the politics that would make small scale It’s really a shame.

It's not politics preventing nuclear power it's the eye watering cost.

Unless you count getting taxpayers to shoulder the cost as politics.

Re: Germany shuts down half of its remaining nuclear plants

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Post by wildmanxx »

cheschire wrote: post #42
Ekaros wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why waste money on military? Couldn't it be used much better ways like to decarbon various areas in infrastructure?

A bully (Russia) comes up to a child (Ukraine) and kicks them in the shin really hard (Crimea). Then grabs them by the shirt and rears back like they're about to punch the kid. You're right, why waste money teaching the kid Aikido when we could instead spend that money on school tutors to try to get them into schools that don't have bullies.

Right, playing world police should be right at the top of Europe's plan for saving the climate.

Re: Germany shuts down half of its remaining nuclear plants

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Post by S3raph »

this is the the result of a nonexistent European energy policy, let's switch of coal and nuclear and not work on accelerating the approving process of renewable power plants what should go wrong right? the entire EU is completely dependent on gas which we import from countries like Russia, Algeria. Currently due to the skyrocketing gas prices, production from coal is at a all time high, but hey the green transition is working right??! companies are closing because they can't handle the energy costs, but Germany says everything is fine...

Re: Germany shuts down half of its remaining nuclear plants

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Post by la_fayette »

jpxw wrote: post #25
oaiey wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is amazing. But two major incidents within 30 years time range are not so amazing. When we continue in that rate we will have a serious problem. And with aging reactors and instability everywhere it does not look good.

One incident caused by a natural disaster that would never happen in a European country like Germany, the other caused by mismanagement and frankly jaw droppingly pigheaded incompetence which would also never happen in a country like Germany. Edit: in response to the large number of people bringing up BER and other infrastructure failures in Germany: yes, BER and others may have been bad, but a completely different k…

This summer a large part of germany was completely flooded. This was a natural disaster, which might happen at higher frequencies nowadays. The alarming systems in place competely failed and around 200 people drowned in Germany. There are so many things which could happen and countries like Germany are not prepared for.

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Post by dmead »

maxclark wrote: post #12

Nuclear power is an amazing energy source. It doesn’t look like we’ll ever get beyond the politics that would make small scale It’s really a shame.

I do not understand how 2 major incidents (in living memory) that could have ruined the biosphere don't discredit nuclear power for everyone.

Re: Germany shuts down half of its remaining nuclear plants

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Post by _dain_ »

SavantIdiot wrote: post #40
maxclark wrote: post #12

Nuclear power is an amazing energy source. It doesn’t look like we’ll ever get beyond the politics that would make small scale It’s really a shame.

It's not politics. It is a practical reality that it is dangerous. As dangerous as coal plants. But for some reason HN likes to turn a blind eye to un-disposable toxic waste and the potential for citywide devastation (Chernobyl).

No post body was provided.

Re: Germany shuts down half of its remaining nuclear plants

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Post by watermelon0 »

nvalis wrote: post #26

For context a nice realtime overview of the current energy production in Germany is given by the Energy Charts[0] of the Frauenhofer ISE. [0] https://energy-charts.info/charts/power/chart.htm?l=en&c=DE&...

This one is even better, since it shows how much energy is imported/exported to various countries:

https://app.electricitymap.org/map

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