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Re: Reporter likely to be charged for using “view source” feature on web browser

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Post by skywal_l »

Ekaros wrote: post #28
jimnotgym wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I live in the UK. I am very suprised yes

As European, I find it insane that I could elect the prosecutor or even the police. And in some ways that politicians would have any word on this apart from deciding the funding and laws...

I don't disagree with your point but how a prosecutor must be selected then? If someone is not chosen by a public and popular vote, it must be chosen differently. Any mechanism of choice will have an inherent bias.

For example, you could decide that a prosecutor is the best at knowing the law, so let's have a law exam where the one with the best score is named prosecutor. However, being a good prosecutor can't always be reduced to a technical know-how. And those good at laws might be those who were able to pay to go to the best universities, buy the textbooks, be allowed to study for years without working, etc. So you also have a bias on wealthy families.

I don't think that the problem of allocation of power in our modern societies is a solved problem...

Re: Reporter likely to be charged for using “view source” feature on web browser

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Post by sigmaprimus »

TameAntelope wrote: post #13

This smells like clickbait. No charges have been filed, just a statement from a governor who has a history of bloviating about the press. “Likely to be charged” is a huge stretch.

Having watched a few of the sessions held by congress questioning social media CEOs and the like, I think this story is quite plausible.

In between the grandstanding some of the politicians asked such odd questions, I think an introduction to digital safety should be a requisite course for all public servants along side antidiscrimination and inclusivity.

I wouldn't be surprised if there is someone already in jail who has been charged and convicted to a similar action.

Here is a Canadian example of a similar event.

https://edmontonjournal.com/news/politics/covid-19-records-w...

Re: Reporter likely to be charged for using “view source” feature on web browser

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Post by TameAntelope »

sigmaprimus wrote: post #32
TameAntelope wrote: post #13

This smells like clickbait. No charges have been filed, just a statement from a governor who has a history of bloviating about the press. “Likely to be charged” is a huge stretch.

Having watched a few of the sessions held by congress questioning social media CEOs and the like, I think this story is quite plausible. In between the grandstanding some of the politicians asked such odd questions, I think an introduction to digital safety should be a requisite course for all public servants along side antidiscrimination and inclusivity. I wouldn't be surprised if there is someone already in jail wh…

“Plausible” is exactly where misinformation and fake news thrives.

It’s news if he’s actually charged, it’s much less news if a frustrated governor blows off steam about it.

This is, so far, nothing more than the latter.

Re: Reporter likely to be charged for using “view source” feature on web browser

#34

Post by Talanes »

jimnotgym wrote: post #20
Broken_Hippo wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are surprised? We already know that a prosecutor will try for higher sentences near an election and... well, they are elected. It isn't hard to imagine that an elected official works with other elected officials, especially if they want to do other things in government.

I live in the UK. I am very suprised yes

Craig Murray only just got out of prison for court reporting while not part of the proper crowd, so is it really that different over there?

Re: Reporter likely to be charged for using “view source” feature on web browser

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Post by watwut »

TameAntelope wrote: post #33
sigmaprimus wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Having watched a few of the sessions held by congress questioning social media CEOs and the like, I think this story is quite plausible. In between the grandstanding some of the politicians asked such odd questions, I think an introduction to digital safety should be a requisite course for all public servants along side antidiscrimination and inclusivity. I wouldn't be surprised if there is someone already in jail wh…

“Plausible” is exactly where misinformation and fake news thrives. It’s news if he’s actually charged, it’s much less news if a frustrated governor blows off steam about it. This is, so far, nothing more than the latter.

Frustrated governor blows off steam is news, because that is literally governor harrassing journalists and abusing position.

Re: Reporter likely to be charged for using “view source” feature on web browser

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Post by TameAntelope »

watwut wrote: post #35
TameAntelope wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“Plausible” is exactly where misinformation and fake news thrives. It’s news if he’s actually charged, it’s much less news if a frustrated governor blows off steam about it. This is, so far, nothing more than the latter.

Frustrated governor blows off steam is news, because that is literally governor harrassing journalists and abusing position.

Yeah (less news isn’t not news), just not the news being reported in the title.

And this isn’t harassment yet. This is just a statement, nothing has actually happened.

If you want to see where this could go, check out the story of the data scientist who whistleblew on the Florida government hiding COVID deaths [0].

But none of that’s happened here, yet.

[0] https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/healthcare-information...

Re: Reporter likely to be charged for using “view source” feature on web browser

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Post by [deleted] »

TameAntelope wrote: post #33
sigmaprimus wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Having watched a few of the sessions held by congress questioning social media CEOs and the like, I think this story is quite plausible. In between the grandstanding some of the politicians asked such odd questions, I think an introduction to digital safety should be a requisite course for all public servants along side antidiscrimination and inclusivity. I wouldn't be surprised if there is someone already in jail wh…

“Plausible” is exactly where misinformation and fake news thrives. It’s news if he’s actually charged, it’s much less news if a frustrated governor blows off steam about it. This is, so far, nothing more than the latter.

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Re: Reporter likely to be charged for using “view source” feature on web browser

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Post by themitigating »

TameAntelope wrote: post #13

This smells like clickbait. No charges have been filed, just a statement from a governor who has a history of bloviating about the press. “Likely to be charged” is a huge stretch.

The title doesn't say they were charged it says "likely".

Re: Reporter likely to be charged for using “view source” feature on web browser

#39

Post by simonh »

skywal_l wrote: post #31
Ekaros wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As European, I find it insane that I could elect the prosecutor or even the police. And in some ways that politicians would have any word on this apart from deciding the funding and laws...

I don't disagree with your point but how a prosecutor must be selected then? If someone is not chosen by a public and popular vote, it must be chosen differently. Any mechanism of choice will have an inherent bias. For example, you could decide that a prosecutor is the best at knowing the law, so let's have a law exam where the one with the best score is named prosecutor. However, being a good prosecutor can't always…

Just because any system could or do have biases, that’s no good defence of a system we know has terrible pernicious biases that are visibly compromising it’s integrity. I’m a Brit, and I’d have good expectations of being treated fairly if I faced prosecution as an innocent person here in the UK, in France, Germany, or plenty of other countries. I have no such confidence about the USA. Especially so if the crime I was accused of was politicised. I actually know someone in the US who’s life was destroyed by that system, he spent a year in prison and it took years more to clear his name.

Politicisation is endemic to the US justice and policing system, it’s an absolute disgrace. I agree no system is perfect, we have miscarriages of justice here in the UK too, but perfection is not the enemy of the good and your system is below mediocre. You can do, and deserve, a lot better.

Re: Reporter likely to be charged for using “view source” feature on web browser

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Post by albertopv »

Seen from abroad USA seems like a parody of themselves, not a one particularly funny. Greatest country for greatest opportunities, still many politicians seem incredibly dumb, or ar least as dumb as italian ones, which are really really dumb, on average.
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