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iPhone camera app replaces person’s head with a leaf in photo

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Re: iPhone camera app replaces person’s head with a leaf in photo

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Post by chrstphrknwtn »

At some point the images from phones are no longer photographs… but some kind of photo-illustration.

Taking landscape shots with new iPhones creates some very intense over-saturation of skies and some general HDR-like balancing (even with HDR setting turned off).

I understand that phone makers want to give people devices that “make the best photos” but it does sometimes feel like the image processing is going to far, and producing a representation of reality that is weirdly unrealistic.

Re: iPhone camera app replaces person’s head with a leaf in photo

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Post by Zak »

perardi wrote: post #168
KarlKemp wrote: post #147

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It's important to note that recent iPhones contain the same M1 chip as last year's MacBooks. They are not limited by processing power. DSLR and mirrorless cameras have better optical properties. But they are held back by starting too late and being much worse when it comes to software. These cameras also are limited by their CPUs, which are a decade behind, and by their batteries, which are much smaller but expected…

I had to check that, as these big chunky camera batteries “feel” like they should have a lot of mAH compared to a phone. And I am wrong. Depending on the phone. A Nikon battery: 2280 mAh. An iPhone 13: anywhere from 2406–4352 mAH. Yeah, that’s a way smaller power budget than a Pro iPhone, especially as you have autofocus and image stabilization systems that have to move around a lot more mass.

It is not accurate to compare the capacity in Amp-hours because the Nikon EN-EL15C battery has twice the voltage (two Li-ion cells in series) of a single-cell smartphone battery.

Re: iPhone camera app replaces person’s head with a leaf in photo

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Post by aaron695 »

GenerocUsername wrote: post #90
Gigachad wrote: post #63

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No free lunch, but an incredibly good value lunch. The quality that comes out of phone cameras is remarkable. And the times it messes up are so rare that it becomes a talking point worthy of hundreds of comments.

You guys are conflating 'adjusting light levels and sharness' with 'replacing whole objects in one area of scene with other objects from the scene' I think this particular big demonstrates a massive gap in what people think photoprocessing is, and what it has very recently become

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Re: iPhone camera app replaces person’s head with a leaf in photo

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Post by danShumway »

Before we criticize, before jumping to conclusions -- I just want to point out, it is a great leaf. Are we certain that the camera's decision was wrong?

I mean, maybe we should consider the camera's judgement about what the best picture is. I'm not a photographer, if my camera tells me that my friend's head is best represented as a combination of sticks, leaves, and other natural objects, who am I to argue with that? I haven't been to photography college.

This is a darn good picture of a leaf person.

Re: iPhone camera app replaces person’s head with a leaf in photo

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Post by spoonjim »

laurent92 wrote: post #156
spoonjim wrote: post #149

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But it’s also just weird. That’s not my daughter’s skin in the photo, it’s 1000 other people’s skin blended together and textured in.

It’s what you desire your skin to be .

That might be good for myself, or if I’m honest even my wife, but my daughter looks perfect to me and I only want to see her in reality.

Re: iPhone camera app replaces person’s head with a leaf in photo

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Post by mc32 »

osivertsson wrote: post #89

I sometimes hang out on mountainbike forums. A user posts that despite a new chain and setting up their rear derailleur according to instructions gear-changes are clunky or the chain skips when applying power on the pedals. The usual reply from the forum members is then to send a photo of the cassette since excessive wear there leads to these problems. This used to clearly show that the user needed to replace their w…

They need to offer an option for a "raw" image as they used to be called --which were minimally processed and were not compressed.

Re: iPhone camera app replaces person’s head with a leaf in photo

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Post by mikewhy »

literallyaduck wrote: post #123

Remember the Rittenhouse trial and the big to do about the video being enhanced when zoomed? Digital evidence and photos are suspicious for the purpose of evidence. Not commenting on the results of the trial. Sidebar not specific to that trial, slow motion, and slowed video shouldn't be shown to jurors because it creates the illusion of having more time to think. Everything in real life happens at one speed, you can'…

> the Rittenhouse trial and the big to do about the video being enhanced when zoomed

I keep thinking about this, and was already when the case was going on. If linear interpolated zoom isn't allowed, no iPhone photo after a certain time should be.

Re: iPhone camera app replaces person’s head with a leaf in photo

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Post by mc32 »

tobyjsullivan wrote: post #80
mynameisash wrote: post #38

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Fully agree. My wife and I went out on a date about a month ago, and during it, she took a selfie of the two of us. There must have been some filter on by default because our faces looked perfectly lit, our skin completely blemish-free, no smile lines, etc. It was a great picture, but I remarked immediately that it didn't look real. And I don't want that -- it's not us but an idealized, optimized version of us. I sim…

This brings new meaning to the old quote, "history is written by victors." Today, the victors are Apple, Google, etc., and they are writing their own version of history as its recorded...

They are the means, but the "victors" are people's vanity. If people didn't want blemish free pictures, they wouldn't be offered --but airbrushing was a thing and old fashioned paintings also tended to skip the blemishes --unlike mirrors. So, today, this continues albeit more perfect and automated for our consumption.
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