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Children's Risk of Serious Illness from Covid-19 Is as Low as It Is for the Flu

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Re: Children's Risk of Serious Illness from Covid-19 Is as Low as It Is for the Flu

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Post by phamilton »

magicalhippo wrote: post #16
throwawayboise wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are they not vaccinated? Do they not trust that the vaccine works, at least as far as preventing serious illness?

Here in Norway the vaccine rollout for non-critical people followed just age brackets. So I, a programmer with zero issues working from home, got the vaccine weeks before tons of younger teachers, who had to go to class each day and meet kids which could potentially infect them. I guess it would be complicated if they had to start introducing multiple levels, or some sort of "you can have my seat" functionality, stil…

In most US states teachers were prioritized along with firefighters, health workers, etc.

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Post by dv_dt »

throwaway_52828 wrote: post #15
NikolaeVarius wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And the teachers. I know 2 teachers that are terrified that the kids will get them Covid-19, since they already get sick from the petri dishes that are children.

If the teachers are vaxxed and boosted, COVID is less threatening than the flu. And if they aren’t, it seems like they don’t have grounds to complain. The only way this worry makes sense is if the teachers live with somebody who is highly immunocompromised. Which would indeed suck, but it’s crazy to design societal policy around those dangers.

Is less threatening for the single short outlook of being hospitalized. We still do not know the long term effects of Covid across a large population and it seems our governments have given up in favor of continued service in the economy.

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Post by HarryHirsch »

throwawayboise wrote: post #11
NikolaeVarius wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And the teachers. I know 2 teachers that are terrified that the kids will get them Covid-19, since they already get sick from the petri dishes that are children.

Are they not vaccinated? Do they not trust that the vaccine works, at least as far as preventing serious illness?

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Re: Children's Risk of Serious Illness from Covid-19 Is as Low as It Is for the Flu

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Post by criley2 »

HarryHirsch wrote: post #23
throwawayboise wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are they not vaccinated? Do they not trust that the vaccine works, at least as far as preventing serious illness?

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This is false. The current vaccine still makes one about 60x less likely to die of covid than being unvaccinated. It's ineffective at preventing infection to omicron, but highly effective at preventing death.

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Post by kgin »

r721 wrote: post #5

>May 25, 2021 All those studies should be done again for Omicron as it's significantly different.

Discussion among inpatient pediatric doctors about rising child COVID admissions with omicron:

https://np.reddit.com/r/medicine/comments/rpr28r/pediatricia...

Re: Children's Risk of Serious Illness from Covid-19 Is as Low as It Is for the Flu

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Post by criley2 »

hitpointdrew wrote: post #6
dv_dt wrote: post #2

But the risk for children getting sick at school and bringing it back to their parents very much does not play out like the flu. I also think it is irresponsible for this article to not mention what ages they’re actually talking about. At some point there is a crossover of the risk and it may be in the younger to mid teens.

The risk of anyone un-vaxxed going to the hospital after catching covid is 0.89% (source: https://news.gallup.com/opinion/gallup/354938/adults-estimat... ) and it is even lower than that if you are vaxxed. It is incredibly unnecessary and risky to vax children, and probably most adults. The only people that this vax should be recommended to are people in high-risk categorizes.

Others have called out various bits of misinformation/lies in your post but I'll call out another.

We vaccinate children against a wide variety of things on a routine basis and a pre-requisite for attending school, and the covid vaccine is literally no more risky than those, and they aren't risky. It honestly feels straight anti-vax to make up lies calling it unnecessary and risky, especially with our health care systems once again succumbing to mainly unvaccinated covid idiots.

Re: Children's Risk of Serious Illness from Covid-19 Is as Low as It Is for the Flu

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Post by miriam_catira »

Does this directly contradict this claim? (Not to mention how old this article is... )

US children hospitalized with COVID in near-record numbers https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-health-pande... (that is an ugly ugly link, apologies even though there's not a lot I can do there)

Re: Children's Risk of Serious Illness from Covid-19 Is as Low as It Is for the Flu

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Post by hadlock »

dv_dt wrote: post #22
throwaway_52828 wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the teachers are vaxxed and boosted, COVID is less threatening than the flu. And if they aren’t, it seems like they don’t have grounds to complain. The only way this worry makes sense is if the teachers live with somebody who is highly immunocompromised. Which would indeed suck, but it’s crazy to design societal policy around those dangers.

Is less threatening for the single short outlook of being hospitalized. We still do not know the long term effects of Covid across a large population and it seems our governments have given up in favor of continued service in the economy.

Yep this is important; Polio presented a lot like the flu, it wasn't until years or decades later that symptoms showed up. They didn't call it "long polio" though, they called it "post-polio syndrome". Famous author of 2001: A Space Odyssey Arthur C. Clarke ended up in a wheelchair decades due to post-polio syndrome after he contracted polio
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