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Whatever happened to Flickr?

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Re: Whatever happened to Flickr?

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Post by vr46 »

ianlevesque wrote: post #28
pythonic_hell wrote: post #3

At the beginning of 2021 I completely move my life away from facebooks ecosystem. As a hobbies photographer I moved from Instagram to Flickr, I wish I had done it earlier! Flickr as a tool is very focused on creators. Once you start using it you realize that the company isn't optimizing for clicks and content consumption. This results in a product and community who’s standard of quality is leagues ahead of anything e…

Doesn't sound like a successful or even self-sustaining online community though: > In 2019, SmugMug started deleting Flickr images of free users, except for the newest 1,000 and Creative Commons images. > User Frank Michel estimated that the site had lost 63% of its images as a result. In 2020, SmugMug increased the fee for a Pro account to $60 per year, saying that the site was still losing money. > It would appear…

They said. I never had a single picture removed, going back to 2005.

Re: Whatever happened to Flickr?

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Post by gromitss »

mudlus wrote: post #149

Flickr is awesome. As Instagram plays out, Flickr, and those that have paid for it for years, will be rewarded with full control over years and years and years of photos. I have full control of tens of thousands of photos I've taken since I was in high school. I LOVE Flickr. hey have excellent customer support, too. I'm less interested in the community aspect, though that is fun, as just the photo storage and organiz…

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Re: Whatever happened to Flickr?

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Post by dpark »

petilon wrote: post #145
glenstein wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's an ok eli5 explainer of what a CEO is, but the positions of Microsoft and Yahoo are not remotely analogous, and the blame of Marissa Meyer flies in the face of any kind of appropriate portionality or historical context. I guess the part where I agree with you is the implicit acknowledgment that blame is merely a function of the job title, and not in any way correlated with any rational analysis of whether thos…

> blame is merely a function of the job title Marissa Meyer's name is indelibly linked to the Flickr fail. She promoted herself as a UX expert, then "improved" Flickr and ended up f??king it up. Excerpt from NYT story: “My focus at Google has been to deliver great end-user experiences, to delight and inspire our end users,” Ms. Mayer said in an interview. “That is what I plan to do at Yahoo, give the end user somethi…

Flickr had already failed before Mayer ever showed up at Yahoo. They pretty much ignored it after the purchase aside from forcing yahoo logins.

Mayer’s failure with Flickr is the same as SmugMug’s: an inability to revive a dying product. At least she tried. But also Flickr was hardly the biggest problem at Yahoo.

Re: Whatever happened to Flickr?

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Post by SilasX »

pythonic_hell wrote: post #3

At the beginning of 2021 I completely move my life away from facebooks ecosystem. As a hobbies photographer I moved from Instagram to Flickr, I wish I had done it earlier! Flickr as a tool is very focused on creators. Once you start using it you realize that the company isn't optimizing for clicks and content consumption. This results in a product and community who’s standard of quality is leagues ahead of anything e…

It doesn't feel that much different to me. It's bloated with trackware and adware and overclever operability-breaking cruft just like any other site now.

Re: Whatever happened to Flickr?

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Post by petilon »

dpark wrote: post #153
petilon wrote: post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> blame is merely a function of the job title Marissa Meyer's name is indelibly linked to the Flickr fail. She promoted herself as a UX expert, then "improved" Flickr and ended up f??king it up. Excerpt from NYT story: “My focus at Google has been to deliver great end-user experiences, to delight and inspire our end users,” Ms. Mayer said in an interview. “That is what I plan to do at Yahoo, give the end user somethi…

Flickr had already failed before Mayer ever showed up at Yahoo. They pretty much ignored it after the purchase aside from forcing yahoo logins. Mayer’s failure with Flickr is the same as SmugMug’s: an inability to revive a dying product. At least she tried. But also Flickr was hardly the biggest problem at Yahoo.

> At least she tried.

There are no participation trophies in business. This isn't kindergarten. Before spending shareholder's money on an expensive project she should have checked if it makes sense to spend money on it. If she made the wrong call she alone is responsible for the mistake.

> They pretty much ignored it after the purchase aside from forcing yahoo logins.

Not true. They fully revamped the user experience, and Marissa Mayer was actively involved in the project.

Re: Whatever happened to Flickr?

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Post by yjftsjthsd-h »

micromacrofoot wrote: post #134
dr_dshiv wrote: post #81

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Founded by the same people who turned a failed video game into Slack.

Discord was an internal comm system for a game studio too

Conclusion: We, as an industry, should ditch everything else and just throw all our R&D money at video games. (But seriously, whatever pivots most readily and allow fastest development probably is a good point of investment)

Re: Whatever happened to Flickr?

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Post by SMAAART »

Innovation happened to Flickr.

One of the lesson learned from "The Innovator's Dilemma" is that a market can be disrupted only when it's overserved.

In 2007 not Flickr was awesome, and it was not the only game in town, there were other (minor) players, we the users had lots of free choices of where to store and share our photos. Crappy opportunity for just another photo service but fertile opportunity for a disruptive company to come in a takes its lunch.

Instagram has entered the room.

Re: Whatever happened to Flickr?

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Post by yosito »

pythonic_hell wrote: post #3

At the beginning of 2021 I completely move my life away from facebooks ecosystem. As a hobbies photographer I moved from Instagram to Flickr, I wish I had done it earlier! Flickr as a tool is very focused on creators. Once you start using it you realize that the company isn't optimizing for clicks and content consumption. This results in a product and community who’s standard of quality is leagues ahead of anything e…

I also moved away from Facebook. Moved my photos to a Photoprism instance on a VPS synced between all my devices with Nextcloud. Couldn't be happier. And I'm not paying Flickr's crazy fee of $60/year just to host some photos.

Re: Whatever happened to Flickr?

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Post by 1024core »

Butterfield (one of the founders of Flickr, and later, Slack) is quite a character.

He and Caterina (Fake, the other co-founder of Flickr) were working on a game, a so-called "Game Never Ending" when they realized that they needed to come up with a way for people to store screenshots and share them. Thus, Flickr was born (this is why some URLs in Flickr had ".gne" extensions).

Yahoo acquired Flicker in 2005, and a few years later, both Butterfield and Fake left.

Butterfield then went back to his game. In the process of developing the game, he realized that he needed a good, reliable chat system: and hence Slack was born.

I wonder if he's back working on the game, which, really seems like a "game never ending" for him...

Re: Whatever happened to Flickr?

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Post by leephillips »

aix1 wrote: post #148
leephillips wrote: post #70

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Yikes. So it’s just, what—some kind of sharing site? That makes it useless for backup.

I don't believe the claim about EXIF location data is accurate -- please see my comment above.

That’s good, but the part about losing access to the original files, if true, is a deal-breaker.
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