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Satoshi leaked his Los Angeles IP address (2016)

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Re: Satoshi leaked his Los Angeles IP address (2016)

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Post by rcpt »

hwers wrote: post #30
ceejayoz wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are enough stories like the 10,000 BTC pizza and lost hard drives it's entirely plausible he doesn't have that early coin any more.

It would be funny if he's just a normal engineer somewhere who did this as a quick side project and won't come out as the creator because he's too embarrassed that he lost the keys.

No way that paper and implementation is a "quick side project". Even if Satoshi were some kind of Bill Joy, Jeff Dean, John Carmack hybrid that's a full time endeavor

Re: Satoshi leaked his Los Angeles IP address (2016)

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Post by drawkbox »

petertodd wrote: post #32
drawkbox wrote: post #16

Van Nuys, Los Angeles, CA was where the IP was located. > IP Address: 68.164.57.219 > IP Block: 68.164.57.128 – 68.164.57.255 > Reverse DNS: h-68-164-57-219.lsan.ca.dynamic.megapath.net > Host: Covad Communications. Van Nuys, CA, USA > Location: Van Nuys, CA, USA Could have even been something like Satoshi wasn't on his normal setup at the time and it slipped through. Maybe on vacation or a wireless connection that c…

> Maybe on vacation or a wireless connection that connected near there. Bitcoin had been released a few days prior to that log file. So unlikely to be on vacation. As I mentioned in another comment, the IRC seeding mechanism isn't necessary to use Bitcoin, and it was publicly released at the time, so no reason to assume this is Satoshi.

Potentially just living there, or there for something, or a false positive.

> Bitcoin had been released a few days prior to that log file. So unlikely to be on vacation.

Vacations are great for after shipping though, after the long slog of a project. Since it was new it would be a good time to escape before all the support requests and more usage increased. Maybe they couldn't stay away from that draw and then got a bit lazy on vacation in terms of opsec. Or maybe not. Good info nonetheless, it is one potential clue or not in the mystery.

Re: Satoshi leaked his Los Angeles IP address (2016)

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Post by someguydave »

spir wrote: post #15
edf13 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Possibly passed away… it would be hard for anyone to resist the amount of money his early coin holding is now worth.

I think somebody smart enough to invent Bitcoin seems likely to have been smart enough to mine coins on a separate account, knowing he would never be able to touch the genesis wallet. I think Satoshi is alive and well and enjoying his riches. Good for them

Satoshi probably destroyed the keys to the genesis wallet as a gift to humanity

Re: Satoshi leaked his Los Angeles IP address (2016)

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Post by anonAndOn »

deafsquid69 wrote: post #33

The keys can move without the coins moving. Think of it like the ultimate Casascius coins. There's no way to know whether or not Satoshi cashed out. I can't find the thread, but I'm pretty sure Adam Back even said this on bitcointalk and said that that would be how he'd move the money if he were Satoshi.

How to dodge transaction fees and internet sleuths in one pass: Put a bitcoin in a wallet and sell the wallet.

Re: Satoshi leaked his Los Angeles IP address (2016)

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Post by wallacoloo »

eMGm4D0zgUAVXc7 wrote: post #7

EDIT: Please explain in the comments - because I seriously do not understand that - why on earth you are downvoting this!? You're advocating something cruel. WTF? What is the problem about saying "leave a person alone who apparently WANTS to be left alone?". You're advocating stalking. The people who trying to figure out who Satoshi is and make it public should realize this: What they're effectively doing is trying t…

i agree with the sentiment, however, it’s wishful thinking.

Bitcoin exists in a space within game theory where everyone is in a constant adversarial relation with everyone else. it’s an explicit design, and that relationship is the only way we really know that the software and cryptography are sound. but you can’t completely isolate the protocol from its surroundings. the adversarial challenge of trying to break the bitcoin protocol is going to leak into the adjacent challenge of trying to de-anonymous the person who explicitly wanted to remain pseudonymous. in a twisted sense, if SN remains pseudonymous under the extreme pressure of thousands trying to de-anonymize him, that’s the only way we can really be sure that anonymization is still possible in the modern age.

Re: Satoshi leaked his Los Angeles IP address (2016)

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Post by KiranRao0 »

sktrdie wrote: post #42
misiti3780 wrote: post #34

Doesnt this mean that somewhere, buried deep in a a database, someone can run a query to see who had the IP address on that day, and assuming it is a private residence there is at least a chance that is SN?

Yeah but leaking such data from an ISP would be considered illegal.

Is there some "legal process" (subpoena, etc) that could reveal this?

Re: Satoshi leaked his Los Angeles IP address (2016)

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Post by wyldfire »

sktrdie wrote: post #40

I think of Satoshi as a genius for the invention. Unfortunately the invention is causing a global climate crisis. Similar to how Einstein's laws helped create the atomic bomb.

> Unfortunately the invention is causing a global climate crisis.

This is straight up bonkers. Yes: humanity's energy consumption is likely the cause of climate change. But the energy consumed goes into a lot of outputs: shelter, transportation, entertainment, commerce.

You could legitimately regard proof-of-work as an inefficiency whose cost keeps increasing. If proof-of-stake is sufficient, then it's remarkably inefficient. But it produces something useful.

Let's have some sense of perspective [1] about energy consumption before you put bitcoin or proof-of-work as the culprit for Earth's climate problems.

[1] https://www.otherlab.com/blog-posts/us-energy-flow-super-san...

Re: Satoshi leaked his Los Angeles IP address (2016)

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eMGm4D0zgUAVXc7 wrote: post #7

EDIT: Please explain in the comments - because I seriously do not understand that - why on earth you are downvoting this!? You're advocating something cruel. WTF? What is the problem about saying "leave a person alone who apparently WANTS to be left alone?". You're advocating stalking. The people who trying to figure out who Satoshi is and make it public should realize this: What they're effectively doing is trying t…

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