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Re: Tools to Download Netflix / Disney / Apple TV Content

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Post by paganel »

matheusmoreira wrote: post #162
AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Remember when the Covenant Kodi plugin was thriving and the media companies hadn't waged legal-nuclear war against that sort of thing yet? It finally felt like the future: I could watch anything , in any language it was available in, right now, in my chosen quality, with automatic subtitle downloads if you want that sort of thing. I would pay good money for a service that could do that legitimately, but no, we can't…

Copyright holders will never be able to compete with piracy. It's impossible. Imagine what it'd take for them to actually offer a service that can even begin to compare with what copyright infringement makes possible. They'd have to pool all their intellectual property into a single holding and offer access to all of it at once. Piracy offers us all the works of humanity, everything ever created. These copyright hold…

> in the correct order in their little streaming service user interfaces.

And in the correct format [1]. Made me just want to pirate Seinfeld so that I could watch it under the proper conditions, but I'm too lazy for that as Netflix is just a few clicks away.

[1] https://twitter.com/Thatoneguy64/status/1443961536079450117?

Re: Tools to Download Netflix / Disney / Apple TV Content

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Post by deanc »

benbristow wrote: post #8
Crazyontap wrote: post #6

One of the best layman hacks to rip all these services is still using ffmpeg/sse with Xvfb. They can DRM and engineer all they want but nobody can stop me from recording what's playing on my screen :D

If you try and screenshot or use something like OBS on Windows you just get a black box on top of the media content. Is that not the case using that solution?

For Sky (satellite tv) in the UK you have an online version. As soon as you even open the screenshot app it closes the stream. If you try and airplay to your tv from laptop, it overlays a big grey box. It’s anti consumer at this point. Anyone who wants to capture and redistribute is ultimately going to find a way.

Re: Tools to Download Netflix / Disney / Apple TV Content

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Post by thih9 »

matheusmoreira wrote: post #162
AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Remember when the Covenant Kodi plugin was thriving and the media companies hadn't waged legal-nuclear war against that sort of thing yet? It finally felt like the future: I could watch anything , in any language it was available in, right now, in my chosen quality, with automatic subtitle downloads if you want that sort of thing. I would pay good money for a service that could do that legitimately, but no, we can't…

Copyright holders will never be able to compete with piracy. It's impossible. Imagine what it'd take for them to actually offer a service that can even begin to compare with what copyright infringement makes possible. They'd have to pool all their intellectual property into a single holding and offer access to all of it at once. Piracy offers us all the works of humanity, everything ever created. These copyright hold…

> Copyright holders will never be able to compete with piracy. It's impossible.

Legal music streaming is good enough for me. Seems a much more convenient and less fragmented ecosystem; I wish movie streaming was like that.

Re: Tools to Download Netflix / Disney / Apple TV Content

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Post by fbrncci »

shp0ngle wrote: post #68

I never understand what pushes people to download Netflix/Disney media and share it on torrent sites. Don't get me wrong, I am glad they do. But, what is the positive for them? The negatives (angry copyright lawyers from one of the richest corporations) outweighs the positives (some clout on 1337x or Usenet or wherever these guys dump it)

People do it for the lulz, money and some fartetched believes. The online groups are often tight knit communities of people with impresive skills who one-up each other on every chance they get. Most of them believe that they are absolutely private and operate in absolute anonymity, so there really is no risk or any negatives involved. So any positives (intl. news talking about you, hearing colleagues chat about your "work" at the office ... etc), far outweight that nothing (supposedly) could happen to you. Until of course the feds kick in your door and reveal some new tracking method you didn't even consider.

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Post by TedDoesntTalk »

bb88 wrote: post #75
naikrovek wrote: post #51

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macro block, a.k.a. MacroVision. as a child I knew a guy that knew how to make the recording VCR record those properly, though I don't know how it was done.

It had to do with screwing around with the vertical blanking interval. TV's had no issue with it, but VCR's would fail. Cable TV "scrambling" was similar back in the day as well. It wasn't so much that the signal was "encrypted" as it was "modified" in such a way it wouldn't play on a normal tv anymore. Over time they could modify the scrambling technique so that any box you did buy to descramble a signal would be wo…

In the early 80s where I lived, there was some kind of filler that, once removed, allowed you to watch HBO. It was housed in a green box exterior to each house, where the cable left the street and entered your house.

I don’t know if it was a filter really. It was just an electronic component of some kind that screwed on/off.

When you ordered HBO, someone visited your property to remove this thing.

Re: Tools to Download Netflix / Disney / Apple TV Content

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Post by luckylion »

matheusmoreira wrote: post #162
AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Remember when the Covenant Kodi plugin was thriving and the media companies hadn't waged legal-nuclear war against that sort of thing yet? It finally felt like the future: I could watch anything , in any language it was available in, right now, in my chosen quality, with automatic subtitle downloads if you want that sort of thing. I would pay good money for a service that could do that legitimately, but no, we can't…

Copyright holders will never be able to compete with piracy. It's impossible. Imagine what it'd take for them to actually offer a service that can even begin to compare with what copyright infringement makes possible. They'd have to pool all their intellectual property into a single holding and offer access to all of it at once. Piracy offers us all the works of humanity, everything ever created. These copyright hold…

> Copyright holders will never be able to compete with piracy.

Music has proven that idea wrong. I'm part of a few private music trackers that came after oink and what.cd. They're much smaller today than they used to. Legal music streaming has made them all but obsolete for everyone but enthusiasts. They're maybe serving 200k people worldwide, if you include the language-specific ones from China, Korea etc.

Spotify alone has 172 million premium subscribers.

Movies are similar.

Re: Tools to Download Netflix / Disney / Apple TV Content

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Post by nebula8804 »

YPPH wrote: post #62
idworks1 wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ah yes, crude indeed. We used to cut a small piece of payer, around an inch. Then fold it into a little square and place it inside that little empty square space on the front of the cassette tape. That's all it took to subvert it. By the way this worked just as well for audio cassettes tape.

As sidpatil says, that's a write-protect tab. If you bought blank VHS tapes and recorded something you could rip the tab off to stop you or someone else accidentally overwriting, say, your wedding video. Of course, all retail tapes were tab free. And you could simply use masking tape to bypass it, because it was only designed to stop unintentional overwriting, not intentional overwriting. I'm pretty sure as a kid I w…

>I'm pretty sure as a kid I wrote over a few (bad) retail VHS movies this way, tapes that served more value as blanks.

Now that I think about it, I've never gotten a Blockbuster/Hollywood Video rental that was damaged in this manner. This method of property destruction never even crossed my mind. It seems so obvious given how easy it is to disable write protection. Was I just lucky or were people more considerate back then?

Re: Tools to Download Netflix / Disney / Apple TV Content

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Post by nebula8804 »

Vrondi wrote: post #147
azinman2 wrote: post #36

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And what happened in the VHS days?

He would have recorded it with a VCR during a promotional free weekend on HBO or similar, then watched it whenever desired.

Yes this used to be a fun hobby. All my favorite films were TV runs and i'd have to time the stop button so I minimized any commercials ending up on the recording. Same goes for recording audio on the Radio onto tapes. It was a simpler time back then.

Re: Tools to Download Netflix / Disney / Apple TV Content

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Post by TedDoesntTalk »

foobarian wrote: post #149
dave5104 wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

About your Disney+ example, I do wonder why it seems that a lot of content like that isn't available on the platform. Are there streaming rights issues? Are they holding back content to drip feed content drops for as long as they can? Did they determine that some content isn't worth digging up the tapes and preparing for streaming?

I wonder also how much of the older content is self-censored for e.g. political correctness reasons.

This is indeed true of movies such as Disney’s Song of the the South. You won’t find that anywhere;; even eBay prevents sale of the DVD.

Cartoons have also been censored:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censored_Eleven

https://deadline.com/2021/03/pepe-le-pew-space-jam-2-new-yor...

Many cartoon shorts from the 30s and 40s with blackface and other offensive material has been edited. I can’t find references right now, but have noticed this personally.

Re: Tools to Download Netflix / Disney / Apple TV Content

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Post by [deleted] »

slacka wrote: post #120
Crazyontap wrote: post #6

One of the best layman hacks to rip all these services is still using ffmpeg/sse with Xvfb. They can DRM and engineer all they want but nobody can stop me from recording what's playing on my screen :D

Does that work on Wayland or just x11? Doesn't the Widevine plugin prevent basic screen captures of its content?

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