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Re: Ask HN: How to find a job in 2021 if I dislike remote?

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Post by datavirtue »

bfung wrote: post #147
datavirtue wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"But a team with a significant number of juniors, faced with multiple blockers or external dependencies will underperform badly compared to in-person working." So, like every corporation.

That really falls on management and having the right docs and communications written ready before the juniors need it.

All the good docs I have seen were written by an engineer who captured their own knowledge for themselves or others. I have been at several corporations where I was able to onboard myself or resolve specific issues by searching confluence or whatever wiki was available. Totally different teams/divisions/departments.

Juniors need seniors more than they need docs.

Re: Ask HN: How to find a job in 2021 if I dislike remote?

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Post by niemenmaa »

cprayingmantis wrote: post #171
niemenmaa wrote: post #24

Before pandemic I started working remotely and soon noticed that, like OP, working alone doesn't suit me. I solved this by joining a co-working hub that offers offices to remote workers / entrepreneurs. My employer pays for the hub membership. I drive to our offices around once a month, but rest of the time I sit in a room with an accountant and gym owner. They are fun to chat and go to lunch with but they don't inte…

If you or anyone else has the time I'd love to talk about what in your opinion makes a great co-working space. Looking into setting up one in the rural region I'm in.

IMHO greatness comes from the community.

A mental checklist when looking for one (not necessarily in this order)

  Need:
  - good internet
  - own desk
  - place to securely store laptop after hours
  - fridge
  -  phone booth / meeting room

  Plus:
  - coffee, tee etc.
  - tableware, washing machine, someone to operate it
  - 24/7 access
  - printing

Re: Ask HN: How to find a job in 2021 if I dislike remote?

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Post by tehjoker »

spookthesunset wrote: post #209
tehjoker wrote: post #203

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All you guys living with the virus are going to enjoy the decreased life bars of everyone in the office thanks to long COVID. Enjoy having 20% of your friends disabled and early onset dementia with sporadic large outbreaks of system overwhelming disease.

What the heck are you even talking about? Dude. Covid is here forever. You are vaccinated and possibly boosted. You are as safe as it is ever gonna get. Move on!

Omicron has already demonstrated that vaccine evasion is inevitable, we are vaccinating against the extinct Wuhan virus. Global human elimination of SARS2 is necessary or you will see in both your personal life and in the broader economy continued disability, death, and drags on productivity.

There is some speculation that the "worker shortage" is due in part to workers with long COVID who want to return to work but can't. I do not know how large of an effect it is, but I can promise you it is real.

My perspective is we are living in a time of crisis and we must muster the reserves to forcefully challenge the problems of our time. Furthermore, COVID-19, a mass disabling event, may take years to resolve. If it takes 5 years to avoid catching it, I will have decades of healthy life remaining.

Re: Ask HN: How to find a job in 2021 if I dislike remote?

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Post by KaiserPro »

alecbz wrote: post #191
KaiserPro wrote: post #28

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yeah but then you have to work for google. big companies have a _lot_ of baggage.

Not denying this but 0.02: after working for Google and another "big" company (>5k employees) and two small (<50) companies, I was much happier at the big companies.

sorry I should have specified how big is big. I'm talking >35k.

even a 5k company, its perfectly possible to change the company in one specific way. (Even I managed it, by accident)

at a 25k company, that's hard. 50k+ almost impossible, unless you have a posse of cheerleaders.

Re: Ask HN: How to find a job in 2021 if I dislike remote?

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Post by dehrmann »

rsynnott wrote: post #135

> These days it's hard to find an in office job I’m not sure that’s true; most companies do plan to re-open their offices if they’re not already open. It probably is harder to find an in office job that is in-office today. Virtually impossible in some places, depending on government guidelines. But generally the intent is to go back. I’m in the same boat; can’t stand working from home, and wouldn’t take a remote job.…

> ...if they’re not already open

It's not the same when the office is "open," but only 5% of people are coming in.

Re: Ask HN: How to find a job in 2021 if I dislike remote?

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Post by hindsightbias »

alecbz wrote: post #176
hindsightbias wrote: post #142

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It’s close to two years. If WFH increased productivity, the entire front page of HN should be blitzed with studies and metrics proving that. But all we have anecdata from a population highly biased to lean introvert.

Tangent: I guess this is maybe just the term "introvert" being overloaded, but I don't see the introversion => likes being alone connection. I'm absolutely an introvert in the sense of finding that social interaction requires energy, but the past two years have proved beyond a doubt that I'm absolutely miserable being alone for long periods of time.

As someone once said, I hate people, but I don’t mind working with other people who hate people.

Re: Ask HN: How to find a job in 2021 if I dislike remote?

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Post by alecbz »

KaiserPro wrote: post #225
alecbz wrote: post #191

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not denying this but 0.02: after working for Google and another "big" company (>5k employees) and two small (<50) companies, I was much happier at the big companies.

sorry I should have specified how big is big. I'm talking >35k. even a 5k company, its perfectly possible to change the company in one specific way. (Even I managed it, by accident) at a 25k company, that's hard. 50k+ almost impossible, unless you have a posse of cheerleaders.

I think at a certain size though a large enough company starts to approximate a conglomerate of smaller companies. Sure, maybe you can't change the entire company, but you could change your smaller org.

Re: Ask HN: How to find a job in 2021 if I dislike remote?

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Post by alecbz »

alecbz wrote: post #186
pysxul wrote: post #44

Come to France, companies hate remote work. You have to negotiate pretty hard to work remotely 2/5 days a week

Naively, this actually really surprises me. My sense of French working culture is that it's very much "live to work", very strong WLB. What's driving France to be more pro-office than more "work-focused" countries like the US?

edit: Sorry, meant "work to live".

Re: Ask HN: How to find a job in 2021 if I dislike remote?

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Post by KptMarchewa »

tehjoker wrote: post #223
spookthesunset wrote: post #209

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What the heck are you even talking about? Dude. Covid is here forever. You are vaccinated and possibly boosted. You are as safe as it is ever gonna get. Move on!

Omicron has already demonstrated that vaccine evasion is inevitable, we are vaccinating against the extinct Wuhan virus. Global human elimination of SARS2 is necessary or you will see in both your personal life and in the broader economy continued disability, death, and drags on productivity. There is some speculation that the "worker shortage" is due in part to workers with long COVID who want to return to work but…

>Global human elimination of SARS2

Yawn. This will never happen, and no one even cares. Long covid is just 1% of 1% cases that are psychosomatic and way overblown.

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