How to think: think longer.
"I have spent endless nights thinking about who killed JKF. Surely, now, I know how to think clearly on the subject. Please come down to my basement where I have a special room dedicated to all the thinking I've done on this subject. And I have thought longer on this subject than anyone else, so clearly I know how to think on this subject."
How to Think: The Skill You’ve Never Been Taught
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#102> Schools don’t teach you a method of thinking. Colleges do. At least, liberal arts colleges do. There is definitely a financial problem with the cost of college, I don't want to diminish that fact. Our higher educational system needs a refactor for a plethora of valid reasons... But how to think - how to deconstruct, compare, contrast, and reconstruct into something new - this is exactly the basis for traditional li…
> how to think - how to deconstruct, compare, contrast, and reconstruct That is not "how to think" in my opinion. That is how to split hairs. And the results of such education - or better said lack of results - are quite telling. If we only talk about formal education math does a way better job of teaching you how to think.
> That is not "how to think" in my opinion. That is how to split hairs.
I don’t know about you but the GP’s process describes what I do when looking at a problem and deciding what code to write, or when visiting (or revisiting) a piece of code that needs attention.
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#103Earlier quoted context omitted.
Any books you recommend on these topics?
Sure, for 1, Nietzsche is always a good choice if you want someone to challenge modern assumptions. René Guenon if you're looking for a mystical, metaphysical approach to religion, especially Hinduism and Islam. I also really love the Tao Te Ching and think it's a totally different approach to Western ones. For 2, I used Virginia Klenk's Understanding Symbolic Logic in a course and recommend it.
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#104> Schools don’t teach you a method of thinking. Colleges do. At least, liberal arts colleges do. There is definitely a financial problem with the cost of college, I don't want to diminish that fact. Our higher educational system needs a refactor for a plethora of valid reasons... But how to think - how to deconstruct, compare, contrast, and reconstruct into something new - this is exactly the basis for traditional li…
Whatever the intent of liberal arts, it's a clear demonstrable failure now. You should not be able to graduate without being able to think for yourself on a wide range of topics. Yet here we are, and we know that people heavily compartmentalize and have severe difficulties getting into the professions related to their degree. Even the employers no longer believe a degree serves critical thinking. It just says you have debt, are willing to work for less, and will be easy to push over.
We can no longer economically afford to keep the social experiment going. The poor are kept poor and the rich rich with the insane requirements and costs of a degree. Defund universities across the board, fire the accreditors, remove all these nonesense old people sitting on a government paycheck stolen from the middle class.
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#105Earlier quoted context omitted.
Your opinion on this is akin to my parents opinion about sports: those who do sports get traumas and then regret it. Therefore don’t do sports. This is a very weak fallacy.
It's not that much of a fallacy. What if you come to a socially unnaceptable conclusion about some ethnicity or culture after too much study? If you are a software dev that poses a significant risk to your job and social life.
If you are right and society is wrong, then you stand a chance to correct an enormous mistake. If you are wrong and society is right, it is by people like you who argue against common tenets that they become hard to argue against.
It's not worth it on a personal level, but very few things short of running for a position are worth it politically on a personal level, it is only on a societal level that they make sense.
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#106> Schools don’t teach you a method of thinking. Colleges do. At least, liberal arts colleges do. There is definitely a financial problem with the cost of college, I don't want to diminish that fact. Our higher educational system needs a refactor for a plethora of valid reasons... But how to think - how to deconstruct, compare, contrast, and reconstruct into something new - this is exactly the basis for traditional li…
University does not teach critical thinking. They teach assignments and tests, where the information is forgotten as quickly as it was received. You do not learn critical thinking having to remember every definition in the textbook. Yet that is still how classes work. Whatever the intent of liberal arts, it's a clear demonstrable failure now. You should not be able to graduate without being able to think for yourself…
I’ve been told (by employers) that “it only shows that you can stick to something for four years without giving up”. Which makes it a ridiculously expensive proposition
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#107This “schools should teach X” is quite the meme. Most of the things I learned in school were fast forgotten. So when someone says “X should be taught in school” my first thought is “we should promote X to become easily forgotten…”. :)
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#108Claude Shannon had some interesting thoughts about this. I summarized them below: 1. Reduce the problem to its most essential parts 2. Find related problems that have already been solved 3. Restate the problem in as many different ways as possible 4. Generalize a solution to as many problems as possible. See where it can apply again. 5. Break large gaps between a problem and solution by solving a bunch of smaller pro…
Moreover, the linked article isn't saying that problem-solving isn't being taught, or widespread - in fact, the authors probably thought that there was too much problem-solving and not enough thinking going around.
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#109Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Trying to understand how an intelligent person could come to an opposite conclusion will improve your thinking ability. I don't think you can term flat-earthers intelligent. That's a dangerously low bar. > A good method for this is: pick an idea that you are 100% sure is true. Not "the Earth is round" but "X value is good." Then search for people who disagree. This is a neat trick (does it have name?), but the true…
> I don't think you can term flat-earthers intelligent. That's a dangerously low bar. Well if they aren't intelligent, wouldn't understanding their reasoning be easier to understand? I at least don't associate simpletons with convoluted logic.
We're just much better at creating stories ("convoluted logic") than we are understanding our belief-making process.
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#110> Schools don’t teach you a method of thinking. Colleges do. At least, liberal arts colleges do. There is definitely a financial problem with the cost of college, I don't want to diminish that fact. Our higher educational system needs a refactor for a plethora of valid reasons... But how to think - how to deconstruct, compare, contrast, and reconstruct into something new - this is exactly the basis for traditional li…