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Re: Ask HN: How to find a job in 2021 if I dislike remote?

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Post by ever1 »

_Wintermute wrote: post #59
vladvasiliu wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd say it also depends a lot on location and its prevalent culture. Over here in France, most French companies (as opposed to US companies operating here) have to be dragged kicking and screaming into WfH arrangements. Ever since the pandemic started picking back up steam this autumn, the government was "encouraging" companies to allow people to work from home, but there were no firm directives. Most companies figur…

I was working in France at the start of the pandemic, only managers had access to the corporate VPN. When we were forced to WFH in the first lockdown we had to email our manager (who had VPN access) each time we wanted to access or save a file and send it as an attachment. This worked about as well you as would expect, and they were in the process of trying to drag everyone back into the office as an essential worker…

Looks like a company with poor tech culture, I am not sure it is specific to France and could be seen in any other places.

Re: Ask HN: How to find a job in 2021 if I dislike remote?

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Post by cosmodisk »

xwolfi wrote: post #49
vladvasiliu wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd say it also depends a lot on location and its prevalent culture. Over here in France, most French companies (as opposed to US companies operating here) have to be dragged kicking and screaming into WfH arrangements. Ever since the pandemic started picking back up steam this autumn, the government was "encouraging" companies to allow people to work from home, but there were no firm directives. Most companies figur…

Yeah but then you have to work with French people, which is a tradeoff I wouldnt do anymore, as a French myself :p

I was finding it quite ok to work with French,some were even fanatic about their work. What I liked most about them was that none of them drank cool-aid and could easily spot corporate BS.

Re: Ask HN: How to find a job in 2021 if I dislike remote?

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Post by abinaya_rl »

There are still jobs that require physical presence. Find an IoT/Electronics company or any hardware company which provides that.

Also, try to join the local library and start working from there. You will meet a lot of people and you will not feel alone or anything like that.

Re: Ask HN: How to find a job in 2021 if I dislike remote?

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Post by cosmodisk »

jdavis703 wrote: post #80
keraf wrote: post #13

I'm in the same boat. I found that becoming a regular in a coffee shop and working from there kinda works for me. I take my breaks with the baristas, have chats with other regulars, and I have access to good coffee. Sure, it's not the same as having colleagues but there's still human contact and you meet interesting people from different industries. Alternatively, I was thinking of joining a co-working space but for…

How do you take meetings? I’d love to work from a cafe. But I just have too many calls or people asking for help on a 1:1 to be comfortable being “that obnoxious guy” on the phone all the time.

I've been working remotely for nearly two years now. Working form a caffe is the equivalent of passively reading emails whilst drinking coffee, anything beyond that requires proper work environment whether it's a room at home or the office.

Re: Ask HN: How to find a job in 2021 if I dislike remote?

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Post by rossdavidh »

amrox wrote: post #54

Find a company whose product is primarily physical. I work at a robotics company and much of our staff never went remote. My team is primarily remote but I’m actually hiring an on-site person for IT.

This is the best answer. In the U.S., something over 2/3 of the populations works non-remote, and always has. The "everything is remote now" perspective is a very professional-class one. So, if you work for a place where most of the jobs by their nature cannot be remote, it will not be weird to want to be at work, it will be standard.

One bonus is that a lot of these places need IT help, and you may be appreciated more. Plus, a greater diversity of backgrounds among the people you work with.

Re: Ask HN: How to find a job in 2021 if I dislike remote?

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Post by _Wintermute »

ever1 wrote: post #81
_Wintermute wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was working in France at the start of the pandemic, only managers had access to the corporate VPN. When we were forced to WFH in the first lockdown we had to email our manager (who had VPN access) each time we wanted to access or save a file and send it as an attachment. This worked about as well you as would expect, and they were in the process of trying to drag everyone back into the office as an essential worker…

Looks like a company with poor tech culture, I am not sure it is specific to France and could be seen in any other places.

True, but in my experience many French companies were perhaps old-fashioned and extremely hierarchical, which doesn't really mix well with WFH.

Re: Ask HN: How to find a job in 2021 if I dislike remote?

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Post by pbmango »

We pulled together several lists of recently posted roles at mid size tech cos. While many of these (most?) include remote option - my guess is reaching out to the team to see if folks have an in person option could be a good signal on being serious about to role etc. For companies that are building their culture around remote they may be turned off by such a questions but you aren't looking for those anyway.

https://www.kiter.app/lists

Re: Ask HN: How to find a job in 2021 if I dislike remote?

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Post by ianai »

Per Scott Galloway's latest slide deck (it's on YouTube), he's convinced me the WFH push is an opportunity for those willing to work from work to lap the WFH crowd. Companies actually do still need people to work from the office/place of business. A worker willing to work at the office/business is thus at a competitive advantage to the much larger population of WFH-ers.

(However...I really would prefer a hybrid mode. But after having the economy jettison me in 2008/2009 it's definitely past time to exploit any competitive advantages for me...)

Re: Ask HN: How to find a job in 2021 if I dislike remote?

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Post by gwbas1c »

I suspect it depends on where you live. I live in Massachusetts, but because I live too far away from Boston, I need to primarily work remote. (And, oh, I'd much rather be in the office 80-90% of the time.)

Believe me, it's easier to get an in-person job than a remote job! Most positions that I see still want staff primarily in-house.

Do you live in the Bay Area, or in a generally high cost of living area? I suspect the push towards remote in those locations is actually cost-saving, and not a "perk." When I lived in the Bay Area, every job I worked involved working with a lot of remote people who lived in cheaper areas.

If you're willing to move, there's a LOT of on-site work in Massachusetts in and near Boston!

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