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The purpose of DRM is not to prevent copyright violations (2013)

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Re: The purpose of DRM is not to prevent copyright violations (2013)

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I also don’t think it’s even necessary to prevent copyright infringement to achieve a goal of effectively steering people towards paid sources. I often hear arguments that its “easier to pirate movies than use DRM’d software”. But I don’t think this is actually the case for the average non-tech-savvy person. If you can operate a torrent client or even know what one is, you are much savvier than the average Netflix/Ro…

Popcorn Time being shut down by the MPAA is the reason there's no simple app for your mum and aunt. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popcorn_Time Unfortunately now there are so many streaming platforms piracy will gain in popularity again. Lots of people don't mind paying for one or two, but probably not five or six. Especially when some just have one or two good programmes.

> Lots of people don't mind paying for one or two, but probably not five or six. Especially when some just have one or two good programmes.

'Subscription rotation' may become a thing: you pay for a service for a few months, catch up on any shows that were released on it that you haven't seen, and then cancel and move onto the next one. A year later you come back to the first one and do a new catch-up.

There may be one or two that you stick with (e.g., Disney if you have kids).

Re: The purpose of DRM is not to prevent copyright violations (2013)

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It has been like that for a long time. The non-skippable intro screen warning viewers of the evils of unlicensed copying was only ever seen by people not watching an unlicensed copy. FWIW, I think movies need to take the same route music did. Ever since I found out I could just buy DRM-free high-quality audio at a reasonable price, I have happily paid for the music I like, because it was so very convenient. If it was…

Where do you buy audio? I don't use apple (itunes) and only some stuff is on bandcamp...

Mostly on Amazon. When possible on bandcamp.

Re: The purpose of DRM is not to prevent copyright violations (2013)

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>> The purpose of DRM is to give content providers leverage against creators of playback devices. This is a good spot to place the pin. The "theological" view is that (1) copyright is a moral right. (2) The Law just protects right against wrong, and(3) economic side effects of laws are incidental. Real life is a lot less naive, so to speak. The commercial intellectual property concerns at stake are are record labels,…

Yes, though I prefer an alternative "theological" view: (1) Property rights exist to peacefully resolve conflicts over naturally scarce resources (2) Information resources are not naturally scarce

Re: The purpose of DRM is not to prevent copyright violations (2013)

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DRM currently works very well to prevent copying of PC games during initial sales window. There is a long list of not cracked Denuvo games. Some have been on the list for years. I think it is interesting that this is the case now since 5+ years ago games were cracked within days, always.

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Re: The purpose of DRM is not to prevent copyright violations (2013)

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Off-topic but the archive.org page is unusable for me on mobile due to the donation banner: the close button is obscured by the timeline and can't be clicked, "maybe later" replaces it with a different banner asking for contact info which I also can't close. I love IA and have donated to them before but this is slowly sliding into the dark UX patterns making web unusable.

No banner on Firefox Android. Maybe it's uBlock Origin. But I had to use reader mode to read the tiny non reflowing text.

Re: The purpose of DRM is not to prevent copyright violations (2013)

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Off-topic but the archive.org page is unusable for me on mobile due to the donation banner: the close button is obscured by the timeline and can't be clicked, "maybe later" replaces it with a different banner asking for contact info which I also can't close. I love IA and have donated to them before but this is slowly sliding into the dark UX patterns making web unusable.

It broke reader mode too. I got the text of the donation banner and nothing else.

Had to zoom into the corner so I could tap the microscopic close button on the timeline so I could then close the donation banner.

Re: The purpose of DRM is not to prevent copyright violations (2013)

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>> The purpose of DRM is to give content providers leverage against creators of playback devices. This is a good spot to place the pin. The "theological" view is that (1) copyright is a moral right. (2) The Law just protects right against wrong, and(3) economic side effects of laws are incidental. Real life is a lot less naive, so to speak. The commercial intellectual property concerns at stake are are record labels,…

My take: "The purpose of DRM is to give content providers leverage against creators of playback devices and their own consumers." How have I regretted purchasing Blu-Rays in the past. They require an update to the drive firmware, they require their own GPU driver version, they require an update to the player software, and they try to sneak spyware onto my PC anyway. It is almost impossible to legally watch an authent…

> I don't quite know why they hate me so much, but whenever I try to be nice to movie companies and purchase their stuff, they treat me like shit.

It's called "paying the Danegeld".

Re: The purpose of DRM is not to prevent copyright violations (2013)

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You get ads on Netflix? Which country are you in?

You don't get the pre-roll ads? A button to skip them eventually appears, but it is still annoying.

Not here in the U.S.

Re: The purpose of DRM is not to prevent copyright violations (2013)

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Pirates don't pay media companies to produce media

Let's not pretend that media companies are givers though... https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/music-news/tv-film-co... https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2021/oct/26/squid-g... https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-57838473 https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-57382459 https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/scarlett-johansson-sues-dis... https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-56815282 Also, str…

I’m far from a proponent of the big media companies but isn’t this argument basically “my theft is okay because they’ve stolen too”? Arguing that those companies are abusive seems like a much stronger argument for watching something else or voting for legal reforms, not taking advantage of other people’s work without compensation.

Re: The purpose of DRM is not to prevent copyright violations (2013)

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Off-topic but the archive.org page is unusable for me on mobile due to the donation banner: the close button is obscured by the timeline and can't be clicked, "maybe later" replaces it with a different banner asking for contact info which I also can't close. I love IA and have donated to them before but this is slowly sliding into the dark UX patterns making web unusable.

Your description immediately reminded me of Wikipedia. It's a shame these good projects fall to these levels.
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