Question: will the new AWS offerings eventually allow us to escape from mobile providers altogether? (I haven’t looked into it and even if I do I won’t understand the details well enough)
No.
Apple said to be preparing for iPhones without SIM card slot in 2022
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#42I will miss taking it off my phone whenever I want or in extreme cases: Smashing it with a brick.
What would be a specific real world scenario where you would actually smash your sim with a brick?
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#44eSIMs are good but it doesn't eliminate the bureaucracy/paper work involved with acquiring an actual network connection, esp for those traveling across countries. Unless ofcourse you are willing to pay those listed roaming charges(some of which appear as hidden charges). Not sure what eSims or even Apple as a company can do about that?
Here in Switzerland eSIMs are actually massively worse - you can't swap them around on most operators without calling (!) their support line to manually release and regenerate the eSIM token. Meaning that swapping between phones now requires calling, possibly expensive, support lines and you better hope your phone issue didn't happen during holidays. And that you have a working backup phone. And you're not in a forei…
I believe it depends on the provider - in Italy there are three that currently support esims. A couple (Tim, Vodafone) let you rescan the qr-code multiple times with different phones. The third (Wind) provides a one time use qr-code, you need to show up at the shop and buy a new code (no idea if the serial is the same or not).
In every case you still need to wait for the qr-code to be posted at your mailbox (even if you can sign the contract online).
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#46Are there existing phones which support more than one eSIM?
My Pixel 4a supports multiple eSIMs being installed, but I don't think you can use two actively.
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#47Esim is a mature and excellent technology. This is overdue.
> Esim is a mature and excellent technology. This is overdue.
And this is the first time I've heard of it. (and in with https://xkcd.com/1053/ before someone else does)
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#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
Here in Switzerland eSIMs are actually massively worse - you can't swap them around on most operators without calling (!) their support line to manually release and regenerate the eSIM token. Meaning that swapping between phones now requires calling, possibly expensive, support lines and you better hope your phone issue didn't happen during holidays. And that you have a working backup phone. And you're not in a forei…
> It's a massive regression of convenience against simply swapping a small chip. Yeah it's beginning to sound like replacing wired headphones with BT ones
I noticed this is a bone of contention among the HN community. It is clear why: both wired and wireless headphones have their advantages and inherent problems that had been discussed ad nauseam. In general, there is no problem as we are free people able to choose what we want and need. The problem appears when a company with a dominant position in the market declares one of these technologies dead and pushes their users towards the other one.
It's not just wireless audio. The same happened with the Ethernet: while most people use WiFi, Ethernet (especially Gigabit and faster) also has its advantages. Removing an Ethernet port is not an improvement: it is a statement.
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#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
One I can think of is operator providing you a software package to make use of his special services (and whatnot). Did you know your simcard contains Java Runtime Environment?
Oh JavaCard, you have succeeded despite being horrific. It's also used for ATM cards, credit cards, etc. And Apple Pay :D I wonder if any environment uses log4j? (jk I hope. The JavaCard spec is fairly limited so maybe it's accidentally safe :D )
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