Wait. Uppercase wasn't used for the personal pronoun "I" or to begin sentences in web0?
Not cool.
I made my first web0 website today. It's so cool it just works
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Re: I made my first web0 website today. It's so cool it just works
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I 100% agree. Imagine if self-hosting was taught in schools. Would Facebook and GMail be this big? I'm dreaming of an alternate universe where you read your friends microblogs through RSS, with the client and timeline algorithm of your choice. Everyone has his own mail server, with proper open-source spam filters. Open-source is a public service, receiving donations from governments. We were so close to this.
We were never close to this. You have to accept we need nurses, hairdressers and farmers and these people cant be expected to do the work required to maintain a critical email server on top of everything else they have to do. Look I heard in the US some people even have several jobs, I suppose by end of your second or third shift of the day, the last thing you want to do is a log4j patch type upgrade... doubly so whe…
Does that not make it obvious that the problem is in the distribution of software? I run my own server and I don't want to care if any of the installed apps I run depend on log4j somewhere in the chain.
I so far trust my Ubuntu LTS package archive to give me sufficient security updates for stuff I install from main, and this is the reason I avoid non-main software, but even Ubuntu is moving away from this model to snaps and such.
Re: I made my first web0 website today. It's so cool it just works
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So true. IP address should have been like phone numbers. The public should have known what they were and how to use them for 2-way communications. I tell non-technical people about this all the time and get blank stares. It didn't occur to me that IPv6 could fix it. I sure hope you're right about that -- what a glorious day it would be if everyone gained control of their computers' networking abilities.
IP addresses shouldn’t be portable, that would be a disaster for routing table sizes. It’s a bit like saying your street address should be portable. On the contrary, addresses and phone numbers should be like domain names. It sure would be great if I could just update my mailing/physical address once when I move.
Well, PO boxes are a rough equivalent to domains: you've got to explicitely set it up at some cost.
As long as you only ever give out your PObox address (domain) instead of your real address (IP), you are good.
Re: I made my first web0 website today. It's so cool it just works
#234Earlier quoted context omitted.
So true. IP address should have been like phone numbers. The public should have known what they were and how to use them for 2-way communications. I tell non-technical people about this all the time and get blank stares. It didn't occur to me that IPv6 could fix it. I sure hope you're right about that -- what a glorious day it would be if everyone gained control of their computers' networking abilities.
IP addresses shouldn’t be portable, that would be a disaster for routing table sizes. It’s a bit like saying your street address should be portable. On the contrary, addresses and phone numbers should be like domain names. It sure would be great if I could just update my mailing/physical address once when I move.
When I said "phone number," I wasn't implying any portability. I was actually thinking of a land-line phone number.
The point I was making is that it's assumed you can get a static phone number for your house, but most of the public don't know how to get a static IP address for their house (and it's often not even possible to do, depending on ISP).
Re: I made my first web0 website today. It's so cool it just works
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That doesn't mean the web isn't decentralized, that means people have gravitated towards a single vendor for reasons I won't get into.
But whatever vendor you choose is a centralized vendor. Unless your using an IP address for you website, your domain name is registered through a centralized registrar. The DNS architecture/protocol itself is centralized as it is controlled by ICANN.
You have either no clue how DNS works or are entirely out of your depth wrt the definition of de-/centralization..
Re: I made my first web0 website today. It's so cool it just works
#236Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you want everything to be decentralized it will always be a pain in the ass and have way more friction compared to a centralized alternative even if it's pretty easy in absolute terms. The problem is psychological, not technical.
You could say the same thing about laundry. While US has a plethora of laundromats and buildings get dedicated laundry rooms, in Europe (at least), even the tiniest apartments in apartment buildings have their own washing machine. While there is some overhead (if it breaks, you have to find someone to fix it; you need to clean that filter...), people have happily accepted the decentralization since the benefits outwe…
The fact you compare this to laundry means you don't really understand the problem. Adding any sort of friction to an onboarding flow severely reduces conversion.
The tech and it's benefits don't mean anything if there is too much friction before the user realizes the benefits, and it doesn't take much friction to dissuade people.
See these tweets from a founder who built a social app startup and sold it to Facebook for 8 figures:
- https://twitter.com/nikitabier/status/1273437328866832384
- https://twitter.com/nikitabier/status/1339278829571854336
- https://twitter.com/nikitabier/status/1324354709201711104
Consumers won't adopt a decentralized solution because there is way too much friction. The only reason people use crypto is because there is a monetary incentive, and even then it's pretty damn fringe.
This comment explains it beautifully: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29709446.
Re: I made my first web0 website today. It's so cool it just works
#237I made my first "professional" web0 page 25 years ago. I made twenty of them, in fact. Each of the 20 webpages belonged to a Computer Science professor in the CS department I was in. I got paid a grand total of $800 to do that. Of that, I paid $200 in rent to my landlord for my room and utilities. My monthly groceries were always under $100. The remaining $500 I diligently sent home to my poor mom & dad back in India…
What an awesome comment. The site brings back memories of the style of the times. But why are his publications in flames?
Placing moving gif flames next to newly added content was a standard procedure back then. These flames indeed look like it is rather a printer or photocopier which is on fire. Still, they belong. :)
Re: I made my first web0 website today. It's so cool it just works
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So because there's no churn and everything is standardized I assume you can tell me which state management library is the correct choice for a React app without causing any controversy?
Sure, book a free call with me here: react.school/call
Why not share it in a single 10-word comment here for the benefit if all if it's so uncontroversial.
Re: I made my first web0 website today. It's so cool it just works
#239I made my first professional web0 age 22 years ago, in 1999. It was amazing.
Re: I made my first web0 website today. It's so cool it just works
#240It's amazing to me how many "web developers" don't actually seem to know how to write pure html/css anymore by hand. They rely on these gigantic frameworks to do literally everything.
Like a lot of Gen X/Gen Y oldsters, I wrote my first web page in Notepad in 1995 or so and uploaded it to my ISP hosting, after undergoing a "bootcamp" that consisted of reading W3C specs, Netscape.com tutorials, going on Usenet, and viewing source on a bunch of other people's pages, sitting all night on my grandfather's Pentium desktop (because we dialed up to get online) and listening to Mine Inch Nails on headphones.
Someone in here points out that complexity produces friction that will drive consumers away. Good. Not all technology has to be a product you can pimp to a VC in an elevator. I love the idea of Web0, of building a new web that requires a bare minimum of engagement on the part of users rather than simply making everything as easy as possible.
There's more than enough brightly lit malls in the metaverse, where everything is just a funnel to catch your attention or your money. But there's also infinite space for simplicity and the digital equivalent of "roughing it", of applying the concepts of appropriate technology to online interaction. Viva la Web0. :-)