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> It's just the law of nature. Not really, societies aren't natural because they are human constructs.
What distinction does the word "natural" provide? Chimpanzees use tools, does that make their behavior and societies "unnatural"?
Once poor, always poor?
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Re: Once poor, always poor?
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I'm one of those people living in poverty that distrusts school institutions. My main philosophical gripe is that it doesn't seem to really matter what your major is. "Oh, you got a bachelors in Biology? Well, I guess that's fine. Come work at my tech company in a way that is completely unrelated to Biology." In this particular situation, it seems like the only purpose of college is to create arbitrary classist hurdl…
It really doesn't matter what your major is. I went to college mostly as a means to get some distance from my horrible family, and I advise anyone coming from a rough family to go to college just so you don't need to do with your family as much. You don't need to go to a good one, even with a GED. You can always go down to community college a few cities over. That can more than be enough. >Now, obviously, that's not…
What major did you choose?
How did you manage to find an apartment and the means to pay for independently one at 18?
Re: Once poor, always poor?
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> That’s not charity. That’s self interest, specially if I can save on taxes while I increase the value of my property. You are evidently using a definition of charity that’s somehow related to the tax code. From context it should be clear that by charity I meant our obligation to love our fellow humans. And a person who neglects his own family to provide for another is doing evil not good. Get your own house in orde…
> And a person who neglects his own family to provide for another is doing evil not good. I never suggested that. I suggested it’d be more charitable to use the money set aside for charity in a way that benefits others. You don’t benefit your family and say it was charity. > I believe I articulated my position on why that might be. If you agree with that, then you agree it’s our job to maximise the number of function…
Why not? What’s wrong with your family also benefitting when you give to your community?
Donating to your alma mater in no way exclusively benefits your family. It also provides scholarships for example. All of the most well endowed schools are very much looking for otherwise disadvantaged persons.
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I'm not aware of such societies: the whole idea of women not being destined for childbearing is relatively new. Some countries are firmly on the course though: https://www.scb.se/en/About-us/news-and-press-releases/2020-...
Once you get rid of all the irrational babies (e.g. through unplanned unprotected sex), the rational babies never get born as people notice how "unprofitable" it is to have children.
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Be that as it is, it remains a minimisation of a rather larger and more complex problem, and a minimisation which largely begins with your own contribution to this thread. Which you still seem to be striving to neither acknowledge nor address.
I'll address what I please.
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Hardly just the Marxists - the Nazis gave it a go, the Danes gave it a go and so did the Canadians [1]. This idea spans the political spectrum, and it tends to go, er, predictably. [1] https://www.theguardian.com/world/ng-interactive/2021/sep/06...
Meh… the Canadian example is more complex than the article infers. The idea is that all children should be educated in the public system. (we still do it today - education is mandatory). For First Nations in remote communities, those children would be required to attend residential schools since no local school existed. If anything the mentality has more similarities to race relations today - “the White Man’s burden”…
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This is a harder problem than just "Free Education". I grew up in the UK (in "deprived" areas, to a single parent with no income other than jobseekers allowance and some childcare from the state) and I can formerly attest that my "free education" was atrocious. I am not sure if there was a negative feedback loop involved: School funding was determined by efficacy. How do you measure efficacy of a school? Well, test r…
I don’t agree with the uniforms point. If uniforms are replaced with a student's own clothes they will be bullied relentlessly for not sporting the latest fashion. This happens today because shoes and bags aren’t part of the uniform. Other than the colour requirements. That was a source of bullying for myself and others.
we are nothing but smarter chimps. our basic psychology is tribalistic one with a strong dominance hierarchy. we are constantly looking for anything to put out selves above others and are constantly looking for social signals of dominance.
Re: Once poor, always poor?
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It really doesn't matter what your major is. I went to college mostly as a means to get some distance from my horrible family, and I advise anyone coming from a rough family to go to college just so you don't need to do with your family as much. You don't need to go to a good one, even with a GED. You can always go down to community college a few cities over. That can more than be enough. >Now, obviously, that's not…
>I went to college mostly as a means to get some distance from my horrible family, and I advise anyone coming from a rough family to go to college just so you don't need to do with your family as much. You don't need to go to a good one, even with a GED. You can always go down to community college a few cities over. That can more than be enough. What major did you choose? How did you manage to find an apartment and t…
Add in loans and it wasn't really hard. This is why I'm actually a defender of student loans, used correctly their the best thing ever.
At 18 you can do dozens of life destroying stupid things. You can have a kid you can't afford, drive drunk , etc. Taking out a loan for school isn't going to hurt even if it doesn't work out