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"Widevine Dump":Leaked Code Downloads HD Video from Disney+, Amazon, and Netflix

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Re: "Widevine Dump":Leaked Code Downloads HD Video from Disney+, Amazon, and Netflix

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Post by nsxwolf »

y4mi wrote: post #202
nsxwolf wrote: post #192

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is not a good experience. I cannot order a box like an Apple TV and just hook it up to my new TV and go. It’s never as easy as anyone says it is, there’s always more steps involved than logging into iTunes and/or subscribing to some service with my credit card. Plus there’s always the chance of a lawsuit hanging over my head.

For a tech illeterare person maybe. using `docker-compose up` to start a preconfigured sonarr, radarr, transmission with VPN , Plex or jellyfin is almost all you need. the only addition is getting a VPN service such as mullvad... If that's too involved for a software developer I'd call that person pretty incompetent, honestly.

This is exactly my point. I can do all these things. They’re the last thing I would ever want to do in my living room. This is analogous to the PC gamer master race thing. I have gaming PCs. I have consoles. The consoles are by far the better experience. They always will be. It’s the difference between “it just works” and “just have to”. You just have to do this, then that, and that… and then it’s just as good … oh until this or that update breaks the entire stack, or some weird quirk of the hardware or it’s OS kicks in and you’re in jank city when you really just wanted an elegant solution.

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Post by CorrectHorseBat »

marcodiego wrote: post #185
CorrectHorseBat wrote: post #181

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But what are they gaining from that?

Among other things, they remove competition.

Where and how? Removing competition among distributors? media producers? manufacturers?

The only place where I could see it reduce competition is manufacturers sure, but why would media producers want to reduce competition there?

I think it's media producers refusing to accept they can't stop pirating and manufacturers making use of that to sell them stuff. In the end it's only the manufacturers who make money from DRM.

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Post by tgsovlerkhgsel »

darkwater wrote: post #169
tgsovlerkhgsel wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because they can sell more views if paying customers are happy. I refuse to pay for Netflix because even if paid I wouldn't be able to watch the content (including Netflix originals where the "rightsholders don't allow it" argument doesn't make much sense) in reasonable quality. Meanwhile, people can watch it from an unlicensed source without paying (legality varies by country but generally low risk for users), and a…

I'm all against DRMs but the friction nowadays is, if you stick to one platform, almost zero, way less than your average pirated experience. Now, if we talk about platforms balkanization and how you have to shell out 50€-$/month if you want to enjoy just the best content from major platforms, that's another topic.

The pirated sites are often streaming sites similar to Netflix. Search for a movie, click play. Quality of service does vary, but the catalogue tends to be much bigger.

As you pointed out, "sticking to one platform" isn't an option because the platform most likely won't have the content you're actually looking for. So step 1 is figuring out which platform that is. Step 2 is probably logging in if you don't keep persistent cookies, and that assumes you're subscribed. By this time your movie is already playing if you take the "alternative" approach.

Even if you didn't mind shelling out 50 EUR/month + whatever extra per-movie surcharges Disney+ charges, the balkanization would still cause significant friction.

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Post by fomine3 »

tomxor wrote: post #109
alufers wrote: post #100

Can we just stop the shitshow with DRM? I have NEVER encountered a TV show/movie that I could't rip using a torrent either on public p2p sites or a private tracker. But I have seen a lot of my non-technical friends and family having a degraded experience, who pay for their streaming services every month. It was either because they were using a browser or device which was deemed unworthy of full quality streaming by t…

Yeah, I don't know in what world DRM is supposed to stop people ripping stuff, it only seems to hurt paying users, ultimately if it comes out of a screen you can always capture the output, no amount of DRM will ever prevent this so why bother . The irony is that as a Linux user (only SD for us), and a user with poor internet and thus shitty streaming speed, DRM pushes me towards torrenting everything I "buy" from the…

For capturing, HDCP is also a DRM (but now broken). Even Cinavia exists for recording by camera.

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Post by fomine3 »

rolph wrote: post #246
tux3 wrote: post #210

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A practical problem DRM will always have is that the full DRM chain that tries to include everything in the path down to the cables, that involves too many actors not to break. Keys will inevitably leak left and right, and you'll always be able to find some sort of cable and capture card setup that ignores DRM. About the watermark scheme, if it was standardized for inclusion in any video-recording equipment, then the…

once the bits are in your bus, you own them, as in physically have them, it becomes a matter of time and effort for you to access them in a humanly enjoyable manner. it is possible to re engineer digital electronics with a little ribbon cable, an exacto knife, and a fine soldering hand. the decrypted bitstream doesnt have to go to a display buffer it could go to memory instead. that is where i see DRM failing to stop…

I can't wait to implement WideVine DRM chip on my brain

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Post by fomine3 »

kybernetikos wrote: post #195
alufers wrote: post #100

Can we just stop the shitshow with DRM? I have NEVER encountered a TV show/movie that I could't rip using a torrent either on public p2p sites or a private tracker. But I have seen a lot of my non-technical friends and family having a degraded experience, who pay for their streaming services every month. It was either because they were using a browser or device which was deemed unworthy of full quality streaming by t…

Recently tried to play a streaming service film on a second screen from my phone, but it wasn't allowed. This makes no sense given that I can do it from my PC in the browser client. But then the PC isn't allowed to download video from the streaming service for offline viewing, while the mobile client is. When I travel, I'm often not allowed to view shows that I watch in my home country on the streaming service, even…

> This makes no sense given that I can do it from my PC in the browser client.

> But then the PC isn't allowed to download video from the streaming service for offline viewing, while the mobile client is.

I believe that's why the restriction exists.

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Post by 0xdeadb00f »

unbanned wrote: post #33

Dunno who the person linked by that miimoji thing, but I hope they have a good lawyer

The person who leaked either: used their repo as a basis for their readme, just found some random character and decided to use it, or it's one of the discord people they were talking about.

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Post by ramraj07 »

boardwaalk wrote: post #110
ramraj07 wrote: post #90

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Who the hell skips car chases? What movie had a car chase that you wanted to skip that made that movie more watchable (this sentence applies to the furious films as well, skipping the chase scenes there gives you the dumbest drama of all time).

Car chases are often filler like action scenes in general are filler, IMO. It's not universally true and depends on how consequential the scenes are. If you could flash " " instead and not miss much, I don't want it. Movies with top, top notch action and/or better integrated action are exceptions. The original Matrix, John Wick movies, Baby Driver, The Italian Job, Mission Impossible, etc. Superhero movies are usuall…

My point is, it’s almost unheard of that a good movie has a boring car chase. Or at the least the movie is a good action movie. If you’re watching Fast 5 or whatever, of course the chase is campy but the entire movie is campy. What are you watching the movie if not for the chase? The plot?

Even in the Bourne films with ostensibly better story lines, I’m struggling to understand how you’d be interested in watching those movies if you’re actually not interested in watching the chase scenes fully. I often just watch the chase scenes on YouTube to give where I’m coming from. I rented Bullit and Ronin and watched then just for the chase. So I suppose I’m the opposite.

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Post by e3bc54b2 »

GekkePrutser wrote: post #30
e3bc54b2 wrote: post #13

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That's why they now embed displays with verification modules. Basically whole stack from server to your display is a giant chain verifying you are not doing what they don't want you to do.

And see how well it works. 2 hours after airing everything is online. The only ones they're giving any hassle are legitimate consumers.

These things are designed to hassle legitimate customers only. Pirates are never going to pay anyway. DRM is so they can squeeze more out of paying customers.

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Post by jollybean »

tomxor wrote: post #109
alufers wrote: post #100

Can we just stop the shitshow with DRM? I have NEVER encountered a TV show/movie that I could't rip using a torrent either on public p2p sites or a private tracker. But I have seen a lot of my non-technical friends and family having a degraded experience, who pay for their streaming services every month. It was either because they were using a browser or device which was deemed unworthy of full quality streaming by t…

Yeah, I don't know in what world DRM is supposed to stop people ripping stuff, it only seems to hurt paying users, ultimately if it comes out of a screen you can always capture the output, no amount of DRM will ever prevent this so why bother . The irony is that as a Linux user (only SD for us), and a user with poor internet and thus shitty streaming speed, DRM pushes me towards torrenting everything I "buy" from the…

DRM is doing what it is supposed to, and that is to stop common theft.

It's a lock on a door. 99% people can get past the lock if they really wanted to, but it takes time, effort, there are consequences.

If there is no lock, then 99% of people would just 'walk right through' the door.

Without DRM systems (including the legal framework) then the instant 'Spiderman' was released, it would be on S3 for the world to share for free. (Which some would like, others not so much, but there definitely wouldn't be another Spiderman).

So if you really want to try, take some risks, ask around, you can get it for free, but most people won't bother so they just pay.

" streaming services still haven't matched this experience. "

I don't know what you mean: people can flick on their TV's and stream whatever Disney or Netflix and that's that. I can't even recall the last time Netflix didn't work for me.

If you mean to say you can 'torrent anything you want' - well - yes, but that's another issue.

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