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I made my first web0 website today. It's so cool it just works

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Re: I made my first web0 website today. It's so cool it just works

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Inspected the page. What does this stuff do? > window["_gaUserPrefs"] = { ioo : function() { return true; } }

Are you running the "gaoptout" extension? ( this thing: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/google-analytics-o... ) That snippet is what it injects to opt you out of Google Analytics. I do not see that snippet in the page source.

Oh, I'm running Privacy Badger, so perhaps that injected it.

Re: I made my first web0 website today. It's so cool it just works

#112

Inspected the page. What does this stuff do? > window["_gaUserPrefs"] = { ioo : function() { return true; } }

I don’t see that, do you have some extension that might add that?

I think it is Privacy Badger, actually.

Re: I made my first web0 website today. It's so cool it just works

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post #78
post #70

Sorry, but this is a rant. I am deeply saddened by the current state of affairs in the web today. in Javascript right now there are so many layers upon layers upon layers of DSLs and mannerisms on top of questionable language features which 'must be used' because the former language features are not cool anymore since a few days ago. The whole ecosystem is turning into a meme of itself. In a few months someone will r…

The amount of reinvention in the JS space is mind boggling. While this works to drive the whole thing forward it would be nice to see more LTS support rather than yet another templating library. Not that most their languages are inherently better but some have a way of mitigating the problem slightly, like e.g. python's extensive std lib collection.

While driving it forward, it also fragments it: look up a tutorial for any given thing you might want to learn to do and it's done six different ways. Trying to integrate code written at different times can be an exercise in frustration.

Re: I made my first web0 website today. It's so cool it just works

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The web is fairly decentralized though. Google could go down and the web would still operate. Amazon could go down, and the web would still operate. Yes there's a few centralized components still such-as DNS, but even that is heavily cached and distributed in nature. Blockchain could aid in replacing BGP & DNS allowing for a better web. But web3 is just as centralized as our current web, if not more centralized. For…

Aws and cloudflare outages have taken down a significant portion of the web. No, the web isn't 100% centralized, but what percent is centralized to a small handful of players?

architecture != infrastructure != supplier

Re: I made my first web0 website today. It's so cool it just works

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post #10

Ah, yes, I remember this from web0: Trying to make web3 go away is just as pointless as trying to make web2 go away. It's here, it's going to stick around. Yes, there's a lot of hype, it probably won't look the same in 10 years, and yes there's a lot of charlatans, but I think ignoring its importance is myopic.

> Trying to make web3 go away is just as pointless as trying to make web2 go away. It's here, it's going to stick around. Web3 is not here lol, it’s literally nowhere. It’s a few Ponzi schemes grafted on top of some MySQL stores like OpenSea and Coinbase. This does not a revolution make.

You’re forgetting that it also has hoards of naysayers clamoring to be the loudest to say “it will never work”. So, at least in that limited sense, it very much feels revolutionary.

Re: I made my first web0 website today. It's so cool it just works

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post #94
post #78

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The amount of reinvention in the JS space is mind boggling. While this works to drive the whole thing forward it would be nice to see more LTS support rather than yet another templating library. Not that most their languages are inherently better but some have a way of mitigating the problem slightly, like e.g. python's extensive std lib collection.

I am a backend engineer by trade, and I have been trying to learn me a little React because I decided I should learn new tech (not the stuff I use on a daily basis, which is Python) on side projects. So the backend is being done in Rust, and frontend is using React. I had this moment where I thought "well, I need Typescript, because I want nicely typed interfaces and contracts, and I need React". Turns out it's not e…

You didn't need TypeScript. That was your first mistake. If you had chosen Create-react-app (the official boilerplate) - that's all you need. Hello world right out of the box. Nothing blows up in your face. Nothing mind-boggling. I've never had to ever run eject. Nothing saddening, nothing tiring. In fact- just the opposite. Happiness, joy, energizing React productivity.

Re: I made my first web0 website today. It's so cool it just works

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post #96

I made my first "professional" web0 page 25 years ago. I made twenty of them, in fact. Each of the 20 webpages belonged to a Computer Science professor in the CS department I was in. I got paid a grand total of $800 to do that. Of that, I paid $200 in rent to my landlord for my room and utilities. My monthly groceries were always under $100. The remaining $500 I diligently sent home to my poor mom & dad back in India…

Mmm, those raised table borders. Timeless!

Re: I made my first web0 website today. It's so cool it just works

#119
post #10

Ah, yes, I remember this from web0: Trying to make web3 go away is just as pointless as trying to make web2 go away. It's here, it's going to stick around. Yes, there's a lot of hype, it probably won't look the same in 10 years, and yes there's a lot of charlatans, but I think ignoring its importance is myopic.

thanks for viewing the source ; )

Thanks for taking the inevitable HN nitpicking politely :)

Re: I made my first web0 website today. It's so cool it just works

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post #94
post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The amount of reinvention in the JS space is mind boggling. While this works to drive the whole thing forward it would be nice to see more LTS support rather than yet another templating library. Not that most their languages are inherently better but some have a way of mitigating the problem slightly, like e.g. python's extensive std lib collection.

I am a backend engineer by trade, and I have been trying to learn me a little React because I decided I should learn new tech (not the stuff I use on a daily basis, which is Python) on side projects. So the backend is being done in Rust, and frontend is using React. I had this moment where I thought "well, I need Typescript, because I want nicely typed interfaces and contracts, and I need React". Turns out it's not e…

Same experience here, I wouldn't be able to get off the ground without those templates. Plus updating can be a nightmare, if you regularly update and the build breaks then it's easy to find out what caused it, however a few months down the line be prepared to spend significant time figuring out what broke again and how to fix it.
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