"Widevine Dump":Leaked Code Downloads HD Video from Disney+, Amazon, and Netflix

Post by therein » Mon, Dec 27, 2021, 9:47 PM UTC

derekp7 wrote: post #166

tomxor wrote: post #109

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Yeah, I don't know in what world DRM is supposed to stop people ripping stuff, it only seems to hurt paying users, ultimately if it comes out of a screen you can always capture the output, no amount of DRM will ever prevent this so why bother . The irony is that as a Linux user (only SD for us), and a user with poor internet and thus shitty streaming speed, DRM pushes me towards torrenting everything I "buy" from the…

The "paying users" is exactly the group that DRM is designed to hurt (control). There is a large class of users that won't mess with torrents or whatever for a number of reasons. Ones that apply to me are 1) I don't want my internet service cut if the ISP gets a complaint, 2) Yes, I know I can use a VPN service to get around (1), but then I'd have to find a trusted VPN and there have been ones in the past that were o…

Post by bitexploder » Mon, Dec 27, 2021, 10:00 PM UTC

y4mi wrote: post #202

nsxwolf wrote: post #192

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This is not a good experience. I cannot order a box like an Apple TV and just hook it up to my new TV and go. It’s never as easy as anyone says it is, there’s always more steps involved than logging into iTunes and/or subscribing to some service with my credit card. Plus there’s always the chance of a lawsuit hanging over my head.

For a tech illeterare person maybe. using `docker-compose up` to start a preconfigured sonarr, radarr, transmission with VPN , Plex or jellyfin is almost all you need. the only addition is getting a VPN service such as mullvad... If that's too involved for a software developer I'd call that person pretty incompetent, honestly.

Post by [deleted] » Mon, Dec 27, 2021, 10:06 PM UTC

unnouinceput wrote: post #122

323 wrote: post #113

Am I correct that homomorphic encryption will solve the DRM problem, in the sense that it will be mathematically proven (in the cryptographic sense) to be impossible to bypass? Of course, you'll still be able to cam-record the actual output, or steal the image from the TFT/OLED electronics, but no easy bypass.

You are wrong. An encryption, any encryption, needs a key for decryption process. If the client is given that key then it can decrypt and rip the content. If the client is not given the key then how will they legally watch it since they paid for the content anyway? As a rule of thumb, anything that was made by humans can be unmade by humans. All you can do is make the pirate life harder, but never impossible.

Post by charwalker » Mon, Dec 27, 2021, 10:12 PM UTC

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dijit wrote: post #131

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> aka the "Blu-Ray experience" Have you actually used blu-ray or are you thinking about DVDs (and Blu-rays are a natural evolution in your mind?) Because, honestly, Blu-rays are atrocious. Every so often I actually buy a BluRay, not only to support the work but also because in the case of losing internet (but not power) I'd like to watch a small selection of carefully curated movies. I was in such a position 2 years…

Want something worse? Blu-ray constantly changes the keys as they get cracked/over time. If you don't have new keys you can't play new discs. Our first Blu-ray player stopped getting firmware updates and so stopped getting new codes. Became basically junk as who wants a Blu-ray player where it only can play films released pre-2012?

Post by selfhoster11 » Mon, Dec 27, 2021, 10:22 PM UTC

hatware wrote: post #146

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I feel like I have to defend the parent here. My experience in the nulling/warez/pirating community is that it tends to be young adults doing the majority of the work and mostly they do it for kudos and not monetary benefit. Adults might be giving them the kudos, but the hard work (again, in my experience) is young adults, of school age.

Young adults aren't breaking into streaming devices to extract the CDM keys. They also aren't running trackers like Orpheus and Redacted. Those are small examples, but I'm not sure I understand how young adults would ever have the mobility and network to do these things.