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Re: A Tumblr developer on the App Store approval process

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Post by kmeisthax »

phreack wrote: post #35
Anon1096 wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do Reddit and Twitter pass the App Store review process? I'm pretty sure you can trivially find porn by searching for it.

When you're big enough, there's a chance that the boss's boss at Apple uses your app and will come talk to you and save you from The Process. Also, if everyone uses your app, when it breaks then people will not necessarily complain to you, but to Apple instead since people can't tell the difference between the phone and the app, so to avoid the idea that your phone breaks, Apple will let you update your app instantly…

AKA "The reason why Roblox is allowed on the App Store and iDOS 2 isn't".

Re: A Tumblr developer on the App Store approval process

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Post by SergeAx »

> In the case of Tumblr, this would be a reviewer going to search, typing in something like 'tits’ and finding porn.

I just don't get it. With the current state of image processing ML hacking together an NSFW detecting horizontally scalable service is a question of days.

Then you just have to mark all your NSFW content by a flag in a database and stop showing it to iOS devices. That will make people think a bit next time when they choose a new mobile phone.

Re: A Tumblr developer on the App Store approval process

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Post by sebastien_b »

daoismyname wrote: post #67
malwarebytess wrote: post #58

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Can you? Reddit makes you change a setting, save it, reload the page, uncheck a couple more settings, save, before you can see adult content these days. per-account quick test logged out: search "butts" -> no nsfw results on first page search "tits" -> a couple unlabeled nsfw posts (against reddit rules.)

open a browser, navigate to https://www.reddit.com/r/tits/ , click yes, done!

When I go to that link (on iOS), my only option is to “view in app”, which is a shitty option to offer.

PWAs would free them from having to put up with Apple’s restrictions crap.

Re: A Tumblr developer on the App Store approval process

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Post by MathCodeLove »

dcoo wrote: post #101
xg15 wrote: post #57

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So the general agreement is that people should not be allowed to consume porn in the united states?

Not sure if you were saying this ironically, but I firmly believe limiting the consumption of porn would be a net positive. The negative effects are at best overlooked, but normally twisted, and the average age of first experience with porn keeps dropping.

I love how any time anyone says that maybe porn shouldn't be available for every 9 year old with a tablet people get up in arms about it.

OP didn't say ban all porn, but it should be more tightly regulated and its consumption has proven to be damaging.

Re: A Tumblr developer on the App Store approval process

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Post by bsql »

JimDabell wrote: post #82
Anon1096 wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do Reddit and Twitter pass the App Store review process? I'm pretty sure you can trivially find porn by searching for it.

They follow this rule: > If your app includes user-generated content from a web-based service, it may display incidental mature “NSFW” content, provided that the content is hidden by default and only displayed when the user turns it on via your website. — https://developer.apple.com/app-store/review/guidelines/#use...

So why don’t tumblr and other apps plagued by this no NSFW rule follow this?

Re: A Tumblr developer on the App Store approval process

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Post by heavyset_go »

go_prodev wrote: post #66

It appears that the apple tax and review process is a constant problem for iOS developers (according to many linked articles on HN) If it genuinely is a big problem, why don't the apps band together and advertise the problem to their users? I'm guessing many users don't know/care right now, but might pay attention if the app they love suddenly pulls the plug on iOS. Edit: like a union

> If it genuinely is a big problem, why don't the apps band together and advertise the problem to their users?

Apple abuses their market position in order to leverage a chilling effect on talking about their abuses at all.

From[1]:

> If you run to the press and trash us, it never helps.

[1] https://developer.apple.com/app-store/review/guidelines/

Re: A Tumblr developer on the App Store approval process

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Post by heavyset_go »

idrisser wrote: post #50

Someone should really focus on building a trusted jailbreak solution so we (and not apple or google) can decide what we install on our $1,000 phones. Anyone knows a project working on this?

If you start distributing a jailbreak, Apple will patch it. If you sell it to an organization that buys exploits, you can enjoy your exploit indefinitely and make a nice chunk of change on top of it. Apple benefits from this dynamic greatly, as their App Store revenue is more important to them than their uses' security. They incentivize hoarding potential jailbreak exploits and selling them to the highest, and most likely malicious and deadly, bidders, instead of sharing them with users to increase their freedoms.

Re: A Tumblr developer on the App Store approval process

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Post by xg15 »

MathCodeLove wrote: post #144
dcoo wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure if you were saying this ironically, but I firmly believe limiting the consumption of porn would be a net positive. The negative effects are at best overlooked, but normally twisted, and the average age of first experience with porn keeps dropping.

I love how any time anyone says that maybe porn shouldn't be available for every 9 year old with a tablet people get up in arms about it. OP didn't say ban all porn, but it should be more tightly regulated and its consumption has proven to be damaging.

I'm actually agreeing with you at this, but how should this regulation look?

Also, I believe there are a number of non-porn sexual education resources, which should stay available.

However, note that the current crackdown on porn isn't about underage consumers, it's about consumption in general. Apple isn't asking for age verification, they are banning adult content completely.

OP said Apple's stance is reasonable and Apple is pretty close to saying "ban all porn".

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