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Re: Ask HN: What is your spiritual practice?

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post #56

I strongly object to the universality of the question.

Yes, the form of the question is offensive.

Instead of unthinkingly downvoting the parent, consider this thought experiment: what if the question had been:

“Ask HN: What form of Christianity do you practice?”

Asking a large, diverse community such a question comes off as gaslighting those who are not part of the implied group. As such, it’s rude and offensive and has a detrimental effect.

It would be better to just change the form of the question to remove the problem: For those people who have one, what is your daily spiritual practice?

Re: Ask HN: What is your spiritual practice?

#232
post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Recently I was attending several catholic weddings and I was taken aback by the level of religious fervor and literal interpretation of the bible there. I was expecting the preaching to be more focused on how to live a good life and be a valuable member of society, but instead it was more about how I will burn eternally for not believing.

These attitudes come in cycles in the Roman church. There was a 50 year period of liberal thinking. The current has era has swung back to the conservative. When an organization has a 1600 year life span you can expect things like this. Just wait a while...

It could also be regional. My experience in Catholic churches in Texas was a lot different than the upper Midwest. Also, the attitudes of the clergy don't necessarily mirror those of the laity, and there are divisions within the laity as well. The people in the pews get their ideas from a lot of different places, ranging from liberal to evangelical. This was many years ago, haven't been involved for a long time.

Re: Ask HN: What is your spiritual practice?

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100% atheism. Was raised some kind of protestant I forget which one, and derived tremendous spiritual and psychological relief when I realized all of that was absolute nonsense at the age of 9. I knew I was gay at the time and wouldn't come out until I was 18 or so, but my life just got a lot easier when I removed religion completely. I also recall discovering increased moral agency -- as a Christian I had been taught I could simply confess whatever and it would be forgiven (an idea I found laughable), and that the objective basis for making moral judgements comes directly from god (another idea I found laughable). As an atheist I was suddenly responsible for making my own moral judgements and conclusions (I had to decide upon my own objective basis for making moral judgements), and forgiveness was something I had to work towards myself (as in I had to forgive myself for things, which is not easy, but is incredibly rewarding) versus simply getting it for free from some nonexistent deity. All in all, was an incredibly positive change in my life, and I do believe there can be a weird sort of spirituality to 100% atheism that people don't really acknowledge.

Re: Ask HN: What is your spiritual practice?

#234
post #42

I am drawn to Taoism quite a lot. I meditate regularly and do Qi Gong.

Some people struggle with meditation. I did too, especially connecting to my bodily sensations without getting caught up in thoughts. I found that slow movements like Qi Gong can help you with calming down and connecting to your body. When Covid began, I replaced my commute with a daily Qi Gong session in the morning sun. After that I find it much easier to watch my breath, also in sitting meditation.

Re: Ask HN: What is your spiritual practice?

#235
post #223

I am a practicing Catholic. I have four kids all under 7. My normal day consists of feeding them, bathing them, calming tantrums, losing my temper, getting bitter at my lack of time for hobbies, and growing resentful of my lack of time for reading the Bible, praying, etc. But then I remember that this is a true dying to self. Not only a dying to self, but a dying to the world too as each of these sacrifices, failures…

You might like this poem (from what I can find it is attributed to Bill Britton):

When you are forgotten, or neglected, or purposely set at naught, and you don’t sting and hurt with the insult or the oversight, but your heart is happy, being counted worthy to suffer for Christ. THAT IS DYING TO SELF

When your good is evil spoken of, when your wishes are crossed, your advice disregarded, your opinions ridiculed, and you refuse to let anger rise in your heart, or even defend yourself, but take it all in patient, loving silence. THAT IS DYING TO SELF

When you lovingly and patiently bear any disorder, any irregularity, any impunctuality, or any annoyance; when you stand face-to- face with waste, folly, extravagance, spiritual insensibility and endure it as Jesus endured. THAT IS DYING TO SELF

When you are content with any food, any offering, any climate, any society, any raiment, any interruption by the will of God. THAT IS DYING TO SELF

When you never care to refer to yourself in conversation, or to record your own good works, or itch after commendations, when you can truly love to be unknown. THAT IS DYING TO SELF

When you can see your brother prosper and have his needs met and can honestly rejoice with him in spirit and feel no envy, nor question God, while your own needs are far greater and in desperate circumstances. THAT IS DYING TO SELF

When you can receive correction and reproof from one of less stature than yourself and can humbly submit inwardly as well as outwardly, finding no rebellion or resentment rising up within your heart. THAT IS DYING TO SELF

Are you dead yet? In these last days, the Spirit would bring us to the cross.

“That I may know Him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death.” Philippians 3:10

EDIT: I like to keep this poem around as a reminder on how I should act. I find that self is a hard beast to conquer.

Re: Ask HN: What is your spiritual practice?

#236
I'm atheist, but grew up in and around a few religions and new-age spirituality. In my teenage years, I believed in the spiritual existence as fully as I can imagine anyone believing in anything.

As I reached my 20s I realized these were all dead-ends, but never lost the good feelings I associated with the practice.

For a few years, I tried to pin down what it means to be atheist while still embodying the spiritual experience. One morning I was driving to work when my boss called to say the office would be closed and I could take the day off. Suddenly, it was like all the neurons in my brain lit up at once. The sky looked brighter, the air smelled sweeter, and I felt a wave of energy flood my body.

I loved my job, this wasn't a feeling of relief of escaping something I dreaded. Rather, it was just the sudden openness of my day, and a feeling of unbounded possibilities. I realized in that moment that that is what it feels like to be both atheist and "spiritual".

So, my spiritual practice is two things: first, to make those moments happen. Second, to collect the various ideas, mental models, and frameworks that I believe are the evolutionary successors to spirituality.

The core of these ideas center around: focused vs diffuse thinking, the exploitation/exploration tradeoff, computational irreducibility, information theory, systems thinking, and generally allowing some things which don't exist yet, but could theoretically exist, to exist in my mind as if they are already real.

Re: Ask HN: What is your spiritual practice?

#237

For the last few years (and especially since the pandemic began), my most regular practice has been the Liturgy of the Hours, particularly Lauds and Vespers, which are the morning and evening prayers of the Roman Catholic Church. Each one is two psalms and a canticle, followed by a short reading, another canticle (the Benedictus in the morning and the Magnificat in the evening), intercessions, an Our Father, and a co…

Same here. Lauds before work, Vespers in the evening. I'm currently praying what I think is a Franciscan Secular Order variant. I also pray a short prayer at 15:00 (Our Father and Glory Be) which is purportedly the time when Jesus died on the Cross for us, which is also very beneficial. Sundays I read Scripture, following what is really a daily Coming Home Network schedule [1] - a couple of chapters from the Old Testament in order, a Psalm or a a short excerpt from one of the books of wisdom, a chapter from the New Testament

[1] https://chnetwork.org/free-resource-updated-version-of-our-r...

Re: Ask HN: What is your spiritual practice?

#238
post #213

I'm into magick. So a lot of what I do is observe my thoughts and intentions and direct my attention/emotion/passion/sexual energy towards the most beautiful and joyful subset of those. When I'm particularly certain of a desired outcome I will "cast" for it, occasionally doing a bit of sorcery: drawing funny pictures and generally doing wizardly stuff. I also do "continuous divination" AKA leaning heavily into apophe…

> Sometimes I'll also do "acute divination" -- my favorite method is fortune cookies, not even kidding. I'm not religious or superstitious, but I get the most unscientific thought that fortune cookies may actually be personal messages from the universe. Don't really put much credence into this thought but I can't help but think it when opening them. Not sure why.

> fortune cookies may actually be personal messages from the universe.

Try this next time you get one:

Take a few seconds and hold the fortune cookie in your hand. Deeply consider for a moment the comedic possibility that this fortune cookie contains a message from a higher power. Suspend your disbelief, just like you do when engrossed in a work of fiction.

Now, the key: ask a question.

Questions in the form of "Tell me about...", or "How should I approach..." etc are most suitable for the form of divination at hand.

Close your eyes and ask the question to the higher power in the cookie.

Now, have a predetermined method for opening and reading the fortune. I crack in half, eat one half, read, and then eat the other half (or don't, if I am being a brat / don't like the fortune). This part is about making a clean ritual of it.

My hit rate for meaningful messages skyrocketed since applying the above approach.

Re: Ask HN: What is your spiritual practice?

#239
post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

so why come here to contribute nothing to an otherwise interesting discussion?

It's a completely fair answer to OP's question and does not bother me. It contributes to the discussion because it reminds us that some people don't feel the need for a ritualistic form of spirituality.

It might be fair but it's uninteresting and shows lack of self examination. The range of understanding of "spirituality" is so broad and personal nearly anything can theoretically fit into it.

You have people in here talking about their coffee and music habits, but in a way that is interesting and engaging with the question rather than dismissing it.

The fact that someone is so sure that they can't find anything like this in their relationship to the world might be interesting in some contexts but doesn't take the conversation anywhere new.

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