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Re: A Tumblr developer on the App Store approval process

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Post by dcoo »

xg15 wrote: post #57
thewebcount wrote: post #40

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> They will go to the search bar and type in “milf” or “butts” (I wish I were joking). They’ll try to search for drugs on your marketplace. I don’t understand why you think that’s dumb. This is what people who download the app will do, so they’re trying out real scenarios that will happen. They don’t want to have there be a segment on the nightly news saying, “App Store Full of Porn!” Which is what will happen in the…

So the general agreement is that people should not be allowed to consume porn in the united states?

Not sure if you were saying this ironically, but I firmly believe limiting the consumption of porn would be a net positive. The negative effects are at best overlooked, but normally twisted, and the average age of first experience with porn keeps dropping.

Re: A Tumblr developer on the App Store approval process

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Post by np- »

dcoo wrote: post #101
xg15 wrote: post #57

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So the general agreement is that people should not be allowed to consume porn in the united states?

Not sure if you were saying this ironically, but I firmly believe limiting the consumption of porn would be a net positive. The negative effects are at best overlooked, but normally twisted, and the average age of first experience with porn keeps dropping.

Yes because limiting a vice based on what a few people “firmly believe” has always worked so smoothly and successfully in the past and has never caused any major societal issues. Worked so well in America for alcohol and drugs, why not give it a shot with porn too?

Re: A Tumblr developer on the App Store approval process

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Post by protomyth »

The App Store should have a blanket exception for any app that shows user content. The hypocrisy of shipping Safari, Mail, and every Stream Movie App is astounding. I do not want a company with fake morality determining what my morals should be.

At this point we need a new set of laws to govern the openness of app stores.

Re: A Tumblr developer on the App Store approval process

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Post by andrekandre »

Ygg2 wrote: post #62
kelnos wrote: post #51

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Well: > Anywho, that’s Apple for you. Why am I still an iOS developer? I dunno, I got bills to pay. People will chase the money. Even with the onerous review process and 30% cut, there's still a good amount of money to be made on the App Store. This is the standard collective action problem: if a significant chunk of iOS app developers just said "that's enough, we're not working on this anymore" (and if legions of ot…

> software developers seem to think they're too good for a union. Unionizing in global workforce is a fool's errand. Especially when authoritarian governments exist. Even if there was an IT worker's International, some asshole in e.g. North Korea can prevent IT workers joining on pain of death. Or outlaw it. Or deem it a terrorist hacker collective.

  > Unionizing in global workforce is a fool's errand. Especially when authoritarian governments exist.
whats the alternative?

Re: A Tumblr developer on the App Store approval process

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Post by LocalH »

dcoo wrote: post #101
xg15 wrote: post #57

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So the general agreement is that people should not be allowed to consume porn in the united states?

Not sure if you were saying this ironically, but I firmly believe limiting the consumption of porn would be a net positive. The negative effects are at best overlooked, but normally twisted, and the average age of first experience with porn keeps dropping.

The constant struggle to control what other people can consume. Outside of things like CSAM (which I have zero desire to view) I don’t need a nanny telling me what I can view

Re: A Tumblr developer on the App Store approval process

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Post by smoldesu »

ricardobayes wrote: post #70
skhr0680 wrote: post #69

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The app store should have porn. I'm sick of American corporations' War on Breasts. These days the comedy bit would be "7 words you can't say on the App Store"

Typical American cultural prudeness where nudity is taboo but violence is glorified.

I have fond memory of playing those "buddy" apps on my iPod when I was younger where you would throw staplers and chainsaws and whatnot at little virtual guys who were trapped behind the screen. Mildly sadistic? Sure, but I really wonder what was going through the head of the reviewer who allowed all 15-some iterations on that idea to get put up on the App Store while finding a picture of boobs in your app is carte-blanche means for removal.

Re: A Tumblr developer on the App Store approval process

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Post by smoldesu »

JimDabell wrote: post #80
sudosysgen wrote: post #43

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That doesn't make sense to me. The iPhone comes with a web browser. If a user wants milfs and butts they can put that in the address bar.

> The iPhone comes with a web browser. The iPhone comes with a web browser that has parental controls . A parent can have some degree of control over what their kids see when they use Safari. A parent does not have that choice with typical applications.

If that's the concern, then Apple needs to deliver a parental controls API that apps can use to check whether or not the app needs to use filters. Otherwise, their complaints are wholly their fault for not having the functionality to let people discriminate between safe and unsafe content.

Re: A Tumblr developer on the App Store approval process

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Post by LocalH »

null_object wrote: post #76
saagarjha wrote: post #16

> In the case of Tumblr, this would be a reviewer going to search, typing in something like 'tits’ and finding porn. Just want to emphasize this part. App Store Reviewers are completely asinine. Like, dumb as a rock. It’d almost be funny if their stupidity didn’t block your app approval. To be explicitly clear: if your app contains UGC, they will explicitly go and search for things to ding you on, and then fault you…

> They will go to the search bar and type in “milf” or “butts” (I wish I were joking). They’ll try to search for drugs on your marketplace. If your app runs scripts, they’ll try downloading something and then yell at you for letting them do it This is all just fictional garbage, which you totally made-up. I’ve been through hundreds of app reviews, and if a problem is ever found (rarely) the reviews are always polite,…

You have fallen into the trap of “it’s not like this for me, so this person is lying”

Re: A Tumblr developer on the App Store approval process

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Post by artpi »

cblconfederate wrote: post #94
artpi wrote: post #91

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Many, many users expect every single thing to be an app

But you're incentivizing that behavior. How does that help (and tumblr is a blog, it s more usable as a website than as a website-in-an-app

Our main business is not fighting Apple, although we support the open web quite a bit by leading the WordPress project https://www.protocol.com/matt-mullenweg

Re: A Tumblr developer on the App Store approval process

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Post by artpi »

galgalesh wrote: post #96
artpi wrote: post #91

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Many, many users expect every single thing to be an app

This clearly isn't the whole truth given tumbler has a large banner asking you to download the app when you surf to the website.

It is the whole truth. App users come back more often and Apple deserves their share of credit
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