Live data from Hacker News

A Tumblr developer on the App Store approval process

sreegs.tumblr.com

31–40 of 165 posts

Re: A Tumblr developer on the App Store approval process

#31
A good percentage of resolving App Store problems for big companies is somebody at the submitting company calling up somebody they know at Apple high enough on the food chain who will unblock things personally. That and the business implications of a public complaint ("will Apple retaliate against us?") are why you see blog posts from individuals about App Store problems and not from big companies.

You would think if you make Apple several million dollars that they'd give you a dedicated account rep or something (like AWS, or nearly any other large managed service company does). Newp. $1 or a million dollars, you're all the same to The Big A.

Re: A Tumblr developer on the App Store approval process

#32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IIRC the most popular Reddit app on iOS is Apollo, which is just a solo developer.

I doubt this, Reddit has had their own app for years now and every Reddit mobile page on the web nags you to download it

No post body was provided.

Re: A Tumblr developer on the App Store approval process

#33
post #22
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Twitter doesn't.

Can Apple ban Twitter without serious backlash?

They could have done what Apple did with Telegram and only allow the iOS app to access SFW groups (or at least not known NSFW groups), while Android users have all the fun.

Re: A Tumblr developer on the App Store approval process

#34
post #17

> In the case of Tumblr, this would be a reviewer going to search, typing in something like 'tits’ and finding porn. Just want to emphasize this part. App Store Reviewers are completely asinine. Like, dumb as a rock. It’d almost be funny if their stupidity didn’t block your app approval. To be explicitly clear: if your app contains UGC, they will explicitly go and search for things to ding you on, and then fault you…

This reminds me of security guards at various places, such as malls or parks. They take great pleasure in “enforcement” and in inconveniencing people beyond the limits of common sense. Their work happens to be the place where they can exert control while other areas of their lives may not be so great. I wonder if the App Store review recruitment process somehow (inadvertently?) selects for such people who “take it ou…

I call them stupid, but mostly because they act like they are stupid. My impression is that Apple's policies basically force them to be like that–they're worked hard, with little time given on each app, and probably graded on some sort of scale that incentivizes finding problems in apps. And, I mean, not everyone is an expert in the App Store Review Guidelines–it's actually fairly long, there's a lot of case law you need to take into account, and a bunch of unwritten policies that only get attention when your app happens to hit it and you know what is going on.

What Apple really needs to do is basically tell all their reviewers to stop flagging apps on this. It just causes general discontent everywhere: it's an obvious annoyance to developers hit by it, and the ones that know how to fight it will drag it on with you and hate you the entire time, and the ones that don't will change their apps and also hate you the entire time. I think–and this is just a guess–that they don't do this because they just don't want to have this content at all, not for any sort of prudishness, but because of the exact same reason everyone else shuns it: it's frequently a source of problems, they get into trouble with it when the news covers it in a bad light, etc. They like having blanket authority in this area, and think that whatever problems they're causing (which they are absolutely aware of, by the way) are just not a big deal, just like they are holding on to their 30% or whatever.

Of course, whatever reasons they have mean very little when the net effect is that this "problematic" content gets hounded off of the platform. You can say you don't hate this all you want, but when the actions you take have an effect in a certain direction and you don't do anything about it even when presented evidence about it, you're basically just accepting that you don't value it very much. And, frankly, that's just total garbage, because Apple wants to control all distribution on iOS, which means they have a moral obligation to deal with all of these issues. You don't get to wipe your hands clean of things you don't like and also say you want to be the sole arbiter for everything. But that's just a familiar big tech thing ;)

Re: A Tumblr developer on the App Store approval process

#35

> In the case of Tumblr, this would be a reviewer going to search, typing in something like 'tits’ and finding porn. Just want to emphasize this part. App Store Reviewers are completely asinine. Like, dumb as a rock. It’d almost be funny if their stupidity didn’t block your app approval. To be explicitly clear: if your app contains UGC, they will explicitly go and search for things to ding you on, and then fault you…

How do Reddit and Twitter pass the App Store review process? I'm pretty sure you can trivially find porn by searching for it.

When you're big enough, there's a chance that the boss's boss at Apple uses your app and will come talk to you and save you from The Process.

Also, if everyone uses your app, when it breaks then people will not necessarily complain to you, but to Apple instead since people can't tell the difference between the phone and the app, so to avoid the idea that your phone breaks, Apple will let you update your app instantly.

Re: A Tumblr developer on the App Store approval process

#36

It's appalling to me that iOS developers still exist after all the hoops you have to jump through to get an iOS app out. I'm a web developer that got roped into developing and then publishing a react native app for android and iOS. The android process was relatively painless compared to the crap Apple has you do. For starters, you can't even produce an app build without running on iOS, so the company had to procure a…

The reason is of course money. The profit per user on the Apple garden is light years beyond any other platform. I've seen the exact same app make 100 times as much money on iOS than on Android with half as many users.

Re: A Tumblr developer on the App Store approval process

#37
post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The article also mentioned twitter and instagram. All the apps that let you look at user generated content.

Instagram forbids NSFW content platform-wide.

Literal brothels run Instagram, Facebook and Twitter accounts and the content definitely isn't safe for work.

Re: A Tumblr developer on the App Store approval process

#38

> In the case of Tumblr, this would be a reviewer going to search, typing in something like 'tits’ and finding porn. Just want to emphasize this part. App Store Reviewers are completely asinine. Like, dumb as a rock. It’d almost be funny if their stupidity didn’t block your app approval. To be explicitly clear: if your app contains UGC, they will explicitly go and search for things to ding you on, and then fault you…

Yeah I found the fact that Apple removed Tumblr for explicit content and not Reddit or Twitter to be completely arbitrary.

People usually don’t like governments picking winners and losers, and so they shouldn’t like companies doing so.

Re: A Tumblr developer on the App Store approval process

#39

It's appalling to me that iOS developers still exist after all the hoops you have to jump through to get an iOS app out. I'm a web developer that got roped into developing and then publishing a react native app for android and iOS. The android process was relatively painless compared to the crap Apple has you do. For starters, you can't even produce an app build without running on iOS, so the company had to procure a…

Building reactnative apps is time consuming because of the library and it’s dependencies. Native compile times are much faster.

Re: A Tumblr developer on the App Store approval process

#40

> In the case of Tumblr, this would be a reviewer going to search, typing in something like 'tits’ and finding porn. Just want to emphasize this part. App Store Reviewers are completely asinine. Like, dumb as a rock. It’d almost be funny if their stupidity didn’t block your app approval. To be explicitly clear: if your app contains UGC, they will explicitly go and search for things to ding you on, and then fault you…

> They will go to the search bar and type in “milf” or “butts” (I wish I were joking). They’ll try to search for drugs on your marketplace.

I don’t understand why you think that’s dumb. This is what people who download the app will do, so they’re trying out real scenarios that will happen. They don’t want to have there be a segment on the nightly news saying, “App Store Full of Porn!” Which is what will happen in these scenarios. That doesn’t excuse letting Twitter and Reddit get away with it, of course, but it makes perfect sense that they do that. There’s nothing dumb about it.

Post reply on HN