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Re: Privacy-focused search engine DuckDuckGo grew by 46% in 2021

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Post by lettergram »

clajiness wrote: post #30
lettergram wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The hunter Biden laptop was censored, Hillary Clinton campaign paying for the Steele dossier, as was multiple things regarding covid: wuhan lab leak, vaccine adverse events, etc I’m not 100% sure it’s google but yeah, it happens often.

Or those things are not true. They’re definitely not sources. Let’s try again.

Ugh, hunter Biden laptop is indeed completely acknowledged fact at this point by all sides

https://news.yahoo.com/york-times-quietly-deletes-claim-0218...

https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/02/politics/hunter-biden-laptop/...

https://nypost.com/2021/09/21/the-hunter-biden-laptop-is-con...

https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/HSGAC_Finance_Rep...

One Hillary Clinton’s campaign attorneys have been charged in connection to creating the Steele dossier (lying to the fbi and falsifying records).

https://nypost.com/2021/09/16/fresh-proof-russiagate-scandal...

https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/press/rep/releases/icymi-th...

Senate Interview notes: https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/February%209,...

Plot against the president, is a decent documentary on the subject - https://m.imdb.com/title/tt12734800/

The covid stuff I guess we can wait for, but there’s a lot of evidence out there on that as well. In either case, not lies and definitely should be searchable.

Re: Privacy-focused search engine DuckDuckGo grew by 46% in 2021

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Post by ipaddr »

clajiness wrote: post #19
roylez wrote: post #17

After self-hosting whoogle, I never look back. It’s still google but with a lot of junk removed. Sometimes I have to use yandex though, Google’s results are censored and politically biased anyway.

> Google’s results are censored and politically biased Source?

They have started to censor youtube download sites.

Sex sites, tv streams, torrent sites.

They censor free ebook sites.

They censor 8kun the offshoot of 8chan.

Anti-Covid information..

Their news offerings are politically weighted.

Re: Privacy-focused search engine DuckDuckGo grew by 46% in 2021

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Post by ipaddr »

hiptobecubic wrote: post #38
roylez wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s not up to a search engine to decide what is true or false. If they want to play this game, it’s censorship.

Surely you don't think that it's Google's responsibility to return any random bullshit that happens to be on the internet? I go there to figure something out. I don't care that some conspiracy theorists believe the earth is flat, if I search for "theory of gravity" I don't want any flat earth garbage.

You get neither you get ads for gravity weights and gravity named brands followed by a wiki entry in gravity and tons of amazon links for gravity games.

Re: Privacy-focused search engine DuckDuckGo grew by 46% in 2021

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Post by lettergram »

x1ph0z wrote: post #36
lettergram wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The hunter Biden laptop was censored, Hillary Clinton campaign paying for the Steele dossier, as was multiple things regarding covid: wuhan lab leak, vaccine adverse events, etc I’m not 100% sure it’s google but yeah, it happens often.

Oh right they censored things that are close to flat out lies.

I responded elsewhere but...

Ugh, hunter Biden laptop is indeed completely acknowledged fact at this point by all sides

https://news.yahoo.com/york-times-quietly-deletes-claim-0218...

https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/02/politics/hunter-biden-laptop/...

https://nypost.com/2021/09/21/the-hunter-biden-laptop-is-con...

https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/HSGAC_Finance_Rep...

One Hillary Clinton’s campaign attorneys have been charged in connection to creating the Steele dossier (lying to the fbi and falsifying records).

https://nypost.com/2021/09/16/fresh-proof-russiagate-scandal...

https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/press/rep/releases/icymi-th...

Senate Interview notes: https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/February%209,...

Plot against the president, is a decent documentary on the subject - https://m.imdb.com/title/tt12734800/

The covid stuff I guess we can wait for, but there’s a lot of evidence out there on that as well. In either case, not lies and definitely should be searchable.

Re: Privacy-focused search engine DuckDuckGo grew by 46% in 2021

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Post by ipaddr »

clajiness wrote: post #35
roylez wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s not up to a search engine to decide what is true or false. If they want to play this game, it’s censorship.

Is everyone trolling me? I’m simply asking for a reputable source stating that google is censoring their search results.

These were the first few results in ddg. If you couldn't find anything similiar in google perhaps that's a clue you might not be getting the whole picture.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/googles-search-leaves-users-d...

https://www.businessinsider.com/google-manipulates-search-re...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_by_Google

Re: Privacy-focused search engine DuckDuckGo grew by 46% in 2021

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Post by dgut »

Terry_Roll wrote: post #37

There is no privacy with DDG because it pulls content in, so the search results show the website icon so its possible to workout what you are searching for in general terms from the icons that get displayed. when you consider how many websites exists, those general terms dont take much to work out, plus its mainly powered by Bing so Bing needs to know what you are searching in order to deliver the right results. Real…

Icons are proxied by DDG, so no data leaking there.

Bing's API requires you provide them with an IP address and results are personalized to that address. Because DDG shows the same results to everybody, I assume they have a special deal with DDG and no PII is being sent to Bing.

Disclaimer: I run https://okeano.com, a private search engine.

Re: Privacy-focused search engine DuckDuckGo grew by 46% in 2021

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Post by coffeecat »

clajiness wrote: post #35
roylez wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s not up to a search engine to decide what is true or false. If they want to play this game, it’s censorship.

Is everyone trolling me? I’m simply asking for a reputable source stating that google is censoring their search results.

Search for "Encyclopedia dramatica" on Google, and then on Bing or Duck. Search for Rise of the Moors on Google, and then on Bing or Duck. You can repeat this for other controversial content, and you'll notice a trend: Google suppresses the controversial content entirely (e.g., Encyclopedia dramatica), or shows it after at least one "authoritative" result about it (e.g., Rise of the Moors). Whereas Bing and Duck have no problem identifying the original content and showing it as the first result.

Re: Privacy-focused search engine DuckDuckGo grew by 46% in 2021

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Post by bussierem »

roenxi wrote: post #39
teitoklien wrote: post #22

For day to day searching i use duckduckgo by default on every device. Not a lot because of privacy, something about that company ticks me off in terms of privacy. I like duckduckgo’s interface and I feel they genuinely put a lot of effort to ensure people have a great experience using their search engine. Whether its their !bang feature or integration with apple maps or their various themes. (Heck even their no js, s…

> Not a lot because of privacy, something about that company ticks me off in terms of privacy. Ditto, I just want something that isn't Google. That company has too many fingers in too many pies. DuckDuckGo isn't more private. That is like when Google was serious about the Don't Be Evil slogan - there is nothing technically stopping them and sooner or later principles get worn down by reality (commercial, political or…

I could be incorrect in my assumption here so please let me know:

I assume as a user of DDG that they aren't collecting data on me. However back when Google was following their motto and young, they WERE still collecting data, weren't they?

If that's true (IF) then that would make this an unfair comparison. If DDG eventually erodes their morals and stops caring about privacy then I could just stop using them and they would have no historic data on me.

That aside though, what is your alternative? Yes they may in the future collect data but they certainly don't right now, so why not use them now while they don't rather than giving in and just using Google and accepting the surveillance?

Re: Privacy-focused search engine DuckDuckGo grew by 46% in 2021

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Post by Terry_Roll »

dgut wrote: post #46
Terry_Roll wrote: post #37

There is no privacy with DDG because it pulls content in, so the search results show the website icon so its possible to workout what you are searching for in general terms from the icons that get displayed. when you consider how many websites exists, those general terms dont take much to work out, plus its mainly powered by Bing so Bing needs to know what you are searching in order to deliver the right results. Real…

Icons are proxied by DDG, so no data leaking there. Bing's API requires you provide them with an IP address and results are personalized to that address. Because DDG shows the same results to everybody, I assume they have a special deal with DDG and no PII is being sent to Bing. Disclaimer: I run https://okeano.com , a private search engine.

>Icons are proxied by DDG, so no data leaking there.

Not according to the console view (F12) for images in the browser. You can also verify this with your firewall and dns lookups.

>Disclaimer: I run https://okeano.com, a private search engine.

Also uses bing.net, mm.bing.net for safe search and explicit.bing.net for not safe search, but with a GUID linked to every image it pulls in, so there is still traceability and thus accountability, ergo its not private.

https://external.okeano.com/1e08822804ae14da3a8841c6e0b7cbf2...

I've also noticed there are times when cookies are not cleared on exit with some websites despite browser settings being set to clear cookies on exit. Theres alot more surveillance going on under the hood in the chromium browsers than meets the eye.

Anyway it doesnt matter this thread has been bunked off the first page so sheeple wont wake up.

Re: Privacy-focused search engine DuckDuckGo grew by 46% in 2021

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Post by clajiness »

lettergram wrote: post #40
clajiness wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is everyone trolling me? I’m simply asking for a reputable source stating that google is censoring their search results.

Feel like “reputable” is loaded here lol I’ve had it happen before in searches where I’ll see something and can’t find it on google, but can easily find it on DuckDuckGo. Idk here’s something for you: https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2018/10/09/the-good-censor-le... There are leaked slides showing the intent to censor. Not sure if this is “reputable” enough, but there is something.

> Not sure if this is “reputable” enough

The fact that Breitbart is your first choice says plenty.

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