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Re: I Lost My Past (2017)

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Post by trasz » Sun, Dec 26, 2021, 12:11 PM UTC

shrimpx wrote: post #173

trasz wrote: post #113

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Most (almost all) party people back them didn’t get anyone arrested, they just did their jobs in power plants, schools, and cheese factories, just like they would in the west. Same as googlers today. Sure, some did evil things. Again, just like in the west it’s easy to make money by hurting others. My point is, the perceived difference between those is really just the narrative, the way they are being described in po…

You’re unfairly revising the communist history behind the iron curtain in order to make a biased anti American point. People went to jail for reading certain books or attempting to listen to foreign radio stations. Poets would be under watch, threatened and forced to write pro-party poems. People would get picked up by agents for being non denominational Christians, and would “reappear” again weeks later beaten and 2…

Communist countries had a functioning justice system too. You are doing exactly what you’ve accused me of doing: you are assuming that because some things were not perfect in the Soviet bloc, it meant a total lack of justice.

Re: I Lost My Past (2017)

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Post by justsomehnguy » Sun, Dec 26, 2021, 3:10 PM UTC

sofixa wrote: post #161

justsomehnguy wrote: post #112

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> like how Ukraine inherited all long range strategic missile bombers Along with hundreds of T-60/72 and all the infantry and vehicle munitions. But you can't bring Tu-160 to a local mafia dispute. You can bring a tank there if it's only a couple of hundred dollars and nobody /can/ stop you. > how Transnistria inherited an army Now imagine various small unaffiliated armies all the way to Ural.

> Now imagine various small unaffiliated armies all the way to Ural. So a bloodbath? Like the breakup of Yugoslavia, just with almost no ethnical divisions, with nukes and much bigger scale?

> almost no ethnical divisions

Give a man a neighbour and he would find a reason to hate him. [0]

> Like the breakup of Yugoslavia

Except even more fighting for the resources and for sure it would spill out to the neighbouring countries too. Though it would be a nice thought exercise to determine if Kaliningrad would become Königsberg.

[0] The genie offers a wish but says that whatever the peasant gets his neighbor will get doubled. The peasant thinks for a bit and then says “Make me blind in one eye”.

AFAIK there is a variant of that joke in many cultures.

Re: I Lost My Past (2017)

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Post by shrimpx » Sun, Dec 26, 2021, 10:17 PM UTC

trasz wrote: post #191

shrimpx wrote: post #173

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You’re unfairly revising the communist history behind the iron curtain in order to make a biased anti American point. People went to jail for reading certain books or attempting to listen to foreign radio stations. Poets would be under watch, threatened and forced to write pro-party poems. People would get picked up by agents for being non denominational Christians, and would “reappear” again weeks later beaten and 2…

Communist countries had a functioning justice system too. You are doing exactly what you’ve accused me of doing: you are assuming that because some things were not perfect in the Soviet bloc, it meant a total lack of justice.

I'm not assuming anything. I know firsthand.