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Re: You block ads in your browser, why not in your city?

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This argument, most of the time, is just bad and not smart. "If you hate capitalism, why do you use iPads? etc." It's dreck and it should stop because it's rarely constructive. Sometimes it's a necessary tool. Sometimes people are experimenting. Sometimes people do actually sell out. The problem with this argument is that it tries to shut down the above questions. Details matter, and bad arguments like the above rare…

A few counterpoints I’ve heard over the years include: * The prevailing system will never be toppled by the conscious choice of the individual consumer. * No one person has the power to overturn capitalism, no matter how persistent. * There is no such thing as ethical consumption under capitalism.

>There is no such thing as ethical consumption under capitalism.

That's such a useless statement that even were it true, it proves the parent's point. That moral judgement doesn't lead us closer to a world without capitalism. Go to any haven of anti-capitalism and ask for a link to the manual they have for getting from HERE to THERE. Not even a theory on how to dismantle what we have.

FWIW personally I think capitalism is the worst system, other than all the others. Rein it in, set principles in stone for what we expect and demand from our system, but markets shouldn't magically disappear because we've lost control once.

Re: You block ads in your browser, why not in your city?

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Reminds me of this Banksy quote: People are taking the piss out of you everyday. They butt into your life, take a cheap shot at you and then disappear. They leer at you from tall buildings and make you feel small. They make flippant comments from buses that imply you’re not sexy enough and that all the fun is happening somewhere else. They are on TV making your girlfriend feel inadequate. They have access to the most…

Hopefully culture will evolve so that this aggressive mind violence will be as evident as physical violence.

Re: You block ads in your browser, why not in your city?

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Ad based services have empowered the poor at the expense of the rich who would gladly pay more to hide ads where the poor gladly trade ads for free or reduced price services.

If getting rid of ads means the poor will be worse off why do so many well intentioned people support this position?

Re: You block ads in your browser, why not in your city?

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I just came back home to Europe after a month long stay in a village in Africa, I was baffled by how oppressing the amount of advertisement is in Western cities. It's the first thing I noticed when I got back. It never really occurred to me before that, but now I see it everywhere and it's sickening. Especially most of it is for low-quality/unhealthy products. I developed a particular hate for attention grabbing digital advertising displays.

The anti-billboard movement, adopted by a few cities such as Geneva[0], is a good step towards less visual pollution.

[0] https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/directdemocracy/geneva-z%C3%A9r...

Re: You block ads in your browser, why not in your city?

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post #317

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> it would be infuriating if you had to view an ad before being able to use the subway ticketing system What about using a gas pump? https://www.reddit.com/r/assholedesign/comments/ozu1up/havin... Seems that the trend is going in this direction.

wow, that's bad. I don't know if the "trend is going in this direction", because I would never go to that gas station again after seeing that once. I'm sure most other people would too.

In practice, not so much. Every gas station in my area installed these things, and they are busy as they've ever been. You would have to go well out of your way to avoid ads.

Re: You block ads in your browser, why not in your city?

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What does it mean to say "we must respect the law"? Banksy demonstrates that this is not true. You only need to avoid law enforcement. It seems to me, of course I have no way of knowing, but it SEEMS to me that you are NOT EVEN AWARE that you're not making arguments.

We don't have to treat each other as humans, either, by that logic.

Are you saying that the only reason to treat other humans well is because the law says you must?

I would say that is precisely backwards: one should treat other humans well, for a variety of reasons. We write that down in law as a shared agreement. But the law is not itself the reason -- it springs from the reasons.

Re: You block ads in your browser, why not in your city?

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Seems like perfectly curated marketing. But I do admit I am outraged when a row of stupid fucking scooters blocks my entire running path, when it’s clearly a location no one would ever rent a scooter, rather they are there to deliberately block the path for no other purpose than obnoxious exposure of their brand. I’d love for there to be DAOs to combat those scooter companies, say for example by blocking the executiv…

Copenhagen residents became sufficiently outraged that hire scooters were banned from the city centre. https://1www.eltis.org/in-brief/news/e-scooters-allowed-back...

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Re: You block ads in your browser, why not in your city?

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post #383

Ad based services have empowered the poor at the expense of the rich who would gladly pay more to hide ads where the poor gladly trade ads for free or reduced price services. If getting rid of ads means the poor will be worse off why do so many well intentioned people support this position?

Have any examples of ads benefiting poor people? This is the first time ive ever heard anyone make an statement like this and its really blowing my mind that people think this.

Re: You block ads in your browser, why not in your city?

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post #339

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It's not propaganda by ad agencies. Why make it into a conspiracy? There are pretty great tools out there that you can use for websites, such as Google analytics, but the moment you use that you're implementing a cookie banner. Want to have ads? Cookie banner. Want to have YouTube/Twitter/whatever integration? Cookie banner. europa.eu has a cookie banner. A website that doesn't even need to pay its own bills!

> Want to have ads? Cookie banner. That's just wrong, you don't need a cookie banner for non-tracking ads.

You need to have a cookie banner to have a third party provide ads, which is the most common way to do ads.

Regardless, I block the ads, but I'm still trying to figure out to block all the dialogs about cookies for the ads I'm blocking.

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