Earlier quoted context omitted.
We don't have to treat each other as humans, either, by that logic.
Who said you should extend that logic from advertising to personal relationships?
I don't have a personal relationship with you.
You block ads in your browser, why not in your city?
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Re: You block ads in your browser, why not in your city?
#322But ads in real life do not prevent me from going on about my day. There is no analogy to interstitial pages with ads like in Forbes some time ago with the button Continue to your article: it would be infuriating if you had to view an ad before being able to use the subway ticketing system. You also don’t have ads on at the airport timetable screen. You don’t have pinkertons following you to learn your habits and sho…
What's a "healthy" amount of advertising?
IMHO I would argue that 0 advertising is a healthy amount.
Re: You block ads in your browser, why not in your city?
#323Reminds me of this Banksy quote: People are taking the piss out of you everyday. They butt into your life, take a cheap shot at you and then disappear. They leer at you from tall buildings and make you feel small. They make flippant comments from buses that imply you’re not sexy enough and that all the fun is happening somewhere else. They are on TV making your girlfriend feel inadequate. They have access to the most…
The quote is more Sean Tejaratchi than Banksy.
Tejaratchi originally wrote the essay "Death, Phones, Scissors", published his zine Crap Hound in 1999. Banksy adapted it.
Tejaratchi is OK with that, and yes, it is a great rant.
Re: You block ads in your browser, why not in your city?
#324The amount of ads packed into an NBA basketball game on TV is startling:
- each player's jersey
- arena walls
- courtside walls
- projected onto the court floor (updated each minute)
- on the side and top of the backboard
- most TV graphics ("Taco Bell play of the day")
- split-screen ads during free-throws
- traditional commercials during time-outs
Re: You block ads in your browser, why not in your city?
#325Earlier quoted context omitted.
We don't have to treat each other as humans, either, by that logic.
There's no "logic" at all here. All I did was point out how the other person didn't even make an argument. Nor did you. You just appeal to some popular notion that everyone already agrees with ("treat humans like humans"). Then you suggest this is the same as the other thing, again giving no reason. Maybe you really can give reason to someone, who abuses people, not to do it. To treat humans as humans. But you would…
You are making an argument here, that the other person didn't make an argument; that means you were applying logic.
Your logic is that there's nothing stopping you from breaking societal norms and doing whatever you have the physical capability to do. Therefore, you can destroy property you don't like (advertisements). You can extend that logic to say that you "can" abuse humans.
But your logic totally misses societal context. When someone says "can", they aren't talking about pure physical capability. That's why no one in their right mind will say "I can stab you".
Re: You block ads in your browser, why not in your city?
#326Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ads are everywhere you go on the streets. They lure your attention span with bright colors and LEDs which may create accidents. They reinforce a sense of need to consume and/or a feeling of being inappropriate as a person. Supermarkets will try very hard to "give" you their customer card so they can collect more detailed info about you and profile your habits. Companies often place adverts illegallly [0] by recruitin…
Telling "lure you attention" is just a way to frame it. There are plenty of evidence that visual monotony has negative effect on mind, and FWIW in most modern urban environments (blocky, and painfully uniform) ads often do a little bit of favor by providing variance. I've been to places where street ads are heavily regulated to the point it's noticable that there are less billboards and they are more plain. Unless th…
Ads making a city more beautiful…?
How about some landscaping and art instead?
Re: You block ads in your browser, why not in your city?
#327Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Can I just paint over it, or rip it apart? That's what Banksy does and says "yes" to. > No, that would be vandalism. So what? That's just a word. > As much as I hate ads, THEY have re-arranged the world by paying for it in a free market, and we must respect that. LOL, but why "must we"? You have no reasoning, no justification.
It's not just a word, it's a law, from UK's Criminal Damage Act 1971: "A person who without lawful excuse destroys or damages any property belonging to another intending to destroy or damage any such property or being reckless as to whether any such property would be destroyed or damaged shall be guilty of an offence." But whether we should change that law is probably an off-topic here. All I am saying is that we mus…
Legal laws are also just words. It's not like you can reproduce punishment for vandalism in a laboratory with a bunch of stones.
Re: You block ads in your browser, why not in your city?
#328Reminds me of this Banksy quote: People are taking the piss out of you everyday. They butt into your life, take a cheap shot at you and then disappear. They leer at you from tall buildings and make you feel small. They make flippant comments from buses that imply you’re not sexy enough and that all the fun is happening somewhere else. They are on TV making your girlfriend feel inadequate. They have access to the most…
Seems like perfectly curated marketing. But I do admit I am outraged when a row of stupid fucking scooters blocks my entire running path, when it’s clearly a location no one would ever rent a scooter, rather they are there to deliberately block the path for no other purpose than obnoxious exposure of their brand. I’d love for there to be DAOs to combat those scooter companies, say for example by blocking the executiv…
Scooters are great. No scooter every meaningfully impacted my life in a city. Cars, on the other hand. Boy, if you hate scooters laying around just wait until you hear about these things clogging up every road. Drivers leave them on the street over night! Their personal property and they just...leave them parked all over the city. And they're way bigger than scooters. They block the roads. They're loud. They pollute. And they actually kill people! It's crazy! Tens of thousands of people every year!
The only reason you're commenting here about how much you hate scooters and not how much you hate cars is that cars were here when you were born, so they look to you like a natural feature of the universe, while scooters are new, so there's a lively debate about them. But there's really no comparison. Cars are the much bigger problem.
Re: You block ads in your browser, why not in your city?
#329Reminds me of this Banksy quote: People are taking the piss out of you everyday. They butt into your life, take a cheap shot at you and then disappear. They leer at you from tall buildings and make you feel small. They make flippant comments from buses that imply you’re not sexy enough and that all the fun is happening somewhere else. They are on TV making your girlfriend feel inadequate. They have access to the most…
> Any advert in a public space that gives you no choice whether you see it or not is yours Welcome to public spaces? Life involves maybe seeing things, idea, people you don’t like. That’s not inherently bad.
Without getting into the politics of the personhood (or lack thereof) of corporations, we can say at least that it's not quite that simple since there have been places (is Sao Paulo one?) that have banned outdoor advertising. That means the representatives of the people there came to a consensus that corporate marketing is not on equal footing with the expression of other ideas.
Re: You block ads in your browser, why not in your city?
#330Reminds me of this Banksy quote: People are taking the piss out of you everyday. They butt into your life, take a cheap shot at you and then disappear. They leer at you from tall buildings and make you feel small. They make flippant comments from buses that imply you’re not sexy enough and that all the fun is happening somewhere else. They are on TV making your girlfriend feel inadequate. They have access to the most…
Fuck that indeed. Very strong message here, and I love it. I wish I could take all those ads and shove them into their asses. But what is being suggested here? What's mine to take? If I see an ad, can I reuse the artwork? No. If I see a car, I can't just copy it's design. Can I just paint over it, or rip it apart? No, that would be vandalism. As much as I hate ads, THEY have re-arranged the world by paying for it in…
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