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You block ads in your browser, why not in your city?

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Re: You block ads in your browser, why not in your city?

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Post by guerrilla »

kiryin wrote: post #26

I strongly believe that advertising by definition is unethical in all of it's forms and "block" ads to the best of my ability, in real life as well. I do not view ads that reach me by mail, and as for billboards and posters I see around town, I make a note to avoid the products they advertise. I know this doesn't make a difference but it's an ideological thing. If my actions could in theory cause a tiny little dent i…

I agree with you, but you might be getting down voted because you didn't say why you think it's unethical.

Re: You block ads in your browser, why not in your city?

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Post by simion314 »

About online ads, is most of the tracking and code that runs to identify my preferences or is some kind of anti=fraud shit,that will get even more complex and invasive as bad guys will try commit fraud.

I am thinking at a partial solution(emphasize on partial), offer the users a non-tracking account(Free) , you still give them targeted ads but using a non tracking method like a survey at account creation, options for the user to tell you that he does not like this type of ad, options for the user to tell you what kind of ads he wants to see (like I could accept non-animated ads, software related, local business related, technology related, and article related ads). But all of this would be impossible if most of the tracking is for anti-fraud , then you would need some DRMed browsers to confirm you probably are a human.

Re: You block ads in your browser, why not in your city?

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Post by shakow »

nirui wrote: post #37
lillecarl wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And for men the same, but with boxer-shorts ads right?

I think those ads were designed for womans too...

Why would they be designed toward women; don't millions of men buy their own underwears in your country?

Re: You block ads in your browser, why not in your city?

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Post by jyu »

smarx007 wrote: post #7

But ads in real life do not prevent me from going on about my day. There is no analogy to interstitial pages with ads like in Forbes some time ago with the button Continue to your article: it would be infuriating if you had to view an ad before being able to use the subway ticketing system. You also don’t have ads on at the airport timetable screen. You don’t have pinkertons following you to learn your habits and sho…

Have you run into the IRL pop up ads? People walking in front of you, interrupting your UX for a quick "5 min conversation" about their chosen cause? These pesky ads get through my blockers no matter how often I update my filters.

Re: You block ads in your browser, why not in your city?

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Post by the-dude »

My city replaced the old billboards ( primarily in bus stops, but there are freestanding ones as well ) by electronic billboards. It is like there are giant 2 meter tall Phones everywhere, but this time they only show ads.

I go out of my way to be offline when I am out of the house and now the city council has shoved these screens right in my face. No escape.

Re: You block ads in your browser, why not in your city?

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Post by kiryin »

guerrilla wrote: post #51
kiryin wrote: post #26

I strongly believe that advertising by definition is unethical in all of it's forms and "block" ads to the best of my ability, in real life as well. I do not view ads that reach me by mail, and as for billboards and posters I see around town, I make a note to avoid the products they advertise. I know this doesn't make a difference but it's an ideological thing. If my actions could in theory cause a tiny little dent i…

I agree with you, but you might be getting down voted because you didn't say why you think it's unethical.

A commenter below us put it rather nicely:

"Advertising is a huge business predicated entirely on manipulating people to make purchases they otherwise wouldn't, surgically exploiting weaknesses in our psyche."

Re: You block ads in your browser, why not in your city?

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Post by 2Gkashmiri »

blackhaz wrote: post #15
smarx007 wrote: post #7

But ads in real life do not prevent me from going on about my day. There is no analogy to interstitial pages with ads like in Forbes some time ago with the button Continue to your article: it would be infuriating if you had to view an ad before being able to use the subway ticketing system. You also don’t have ads on at the airport timetable screen. You don’t have pinkertons following you to learn your habits and sho…

But they do. You have to mentally process the incoming data first, then discard it. It's a waste of attention, especially with mind-catching ads you can't figure out immediately. Sometimes they are as blocking as browser pop-ups, e.g.: logotypes (or even full ads) displayed before a responsive UI is shown to you, duty-free zones in the airports, and so on. I am pretty sure we will soon have real-life targeted billboa…

we stopped watching tv in our home a few years ago, coupled with pi hole and ublock origin across all browsers, i personally do not see ads and neither does most of my family. if i do see them at a friends house or somewhere, it is a really jarring experience. i was at a friends house recently and they were watching tv. i found the ad break as a horrifying experience. the volume is turned too high, you can't skip it and it becomes irritating after the third ad break in an hour.

Re: You block ads in your browser, why not in your city?

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Post by supermatt »

IvanK_net wrote: post #20

I own a website www.Photopea.com, visited by 3 million people a month. Once in a while, I enable adblock detector, and do not allow usrers with adblocks use the service. I wish everyone was doing that. When you see someone willing to give you a car (or anything else), but they want money in exchange (i.e. sell it to you), you understand, that it is wrong to take the car without giving them money (i.e. stealing). But…

Thats a pretty disingenuous comparison.

You aren't just charging your users "ad views". You are also facilitating 3rd parties tracking their online behaviour, and they certainly aren't agreeing to those terms when they first land on your site.

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