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My Path to Financial Independence as a Software Engineer

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Re: My Path to Financial Independence as a Software Engineer

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This is good info. Bookmarking it in case I ever make those pay grades (unlikely). Also if the current bubble pops during my lifetime, that'll really reduce my ability to save...

Yeah, as a youngling in Europe I feel like I'm about to get the shitty end of the stick by the time I hit my 30s. 600k/year (inflation-adjusted) seems like a pipe dream...

Where I live (New Zealand) $US 100k/year is a top salary.

Re: My Path to Financial Independence as a Software Engineer

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, as a youngling in Europe I feel like I'm about to get the shitty end of the stick by the time I hit my 30s. 600k/year (inflation-adjusted) seems like a pipe dream...

It’s a pipe dream. 100k€ a year is exceptional for an engineer in Europe. Outside of finance and some American company, it is an exceptional salary period, very rare for someone under 30. I know senior managers in some consulting company who don’t gain that in my country.

Not exceptional in Switzerland, Norway and UK

Re: My Path to Financial Independence as a Software Engineer

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post #6

This is good info. Bookmarking it in case I ever make those pay grades (unlikely). Also if the current bubble pops during my lifetime, that'll really reduce my ability to save...

Yeah, as a youngling in Europe I feel like I'm about to get the shitty end of the stick by the time I hit my 30s. 600k/year (inflation-adjusted) seems like a pipe dream...

Tbh it's a pipe dream for essentially everyone else as well, even 95-99% of Americans. For instance the American President makes 400k/year. That's a wild annual salary and only possible for an exceedingly small smidge of the population. And this guy is earning more.

Re: My Path to Financial Independence as a Software Engineer

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I think people who are graduating now will have a hard time replicating this. My cohort (now in our early 30s, cs majors from a top school) were incredibly lucky because we were in a permanent bull run so as long as we were invested in almost any tech stock, we did well. Almost all of us hit one million mark before early 2020 and that became 2 million at the end of 2021.

I would love for this to continue forever but can it really? For example the author (and my friends) are in similar situation where their compensation are now in the ~500k range but that number is based on the stock value at the time of offer. It is now essentially double that. So we're in a situation where your everyday senior FAANG engineers are locked in a golden handcuff unless they are offered million dollar packages to jump ship.

We're in weird times.

Re: My Path to Financial Independence as a Software Engineer

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TLDR he rode the tech bubble, lived frugally and poured his savings into what happened to be a very favorable stock decade, which together with his tech stock options from employers made him a multimillionaire.

Not to disrespect the effort that went into this, but let's make this very clear: this type of trajectory is only possible for a very limited few, in a particular moment in history.

Everything seems to indicate that, save for a few samurai, the tech overlords are a powerful force driving inequality today.

Re: My Path to Financial Independence as a Software Engineer

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To have 1 MM USD/EUR at the end of your thirties given an average 4 % yearly return on investment, you need to save around 4.000 USD/EUR per month starting at age 25. In Europe, if you earn around 100k EUR per year your free income will be around 5.000-6.000 EUR per month. Saving 4.000 EUR / month is doable with that but you'll have to live very frugally, not traveling much and you better not start a family unless you have a partner who will supplement your income.

And regarding the authors' experience: Yeah, if you happen to be employed in the area that ranks in the top 0.05 % quantile for engineering salaries worldwide you will easily become wealthy, especially if you're lucky enough to be paid in company stock during a stock market bubble.

Re: My Path to Financial Independence as a Software Engineer

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post #15

I think people who are graduating now will have a hard time replicating this. My cohort (now in our early 30s, cs majors from a top school) were incredibly lucky because we were in a permanent bull run so as long as we were invested in almost any tech stock, we did well. Almost all of us hit one million mark before early 2020 and that became 2 million at the end of 2021. I would love for this to continue forever but…

> I would love for this to continue forever but can it really?

well, we've pretty much got the world chained down it's essentially unlimited money for us forever

if things go downhill we will still be on top anyway so who cares

Re: My Path to Financial Independence as a Software Engineer

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post #15

I think people who are graduating now will have a hard time replicating this. My cohort (now in our early 30s, cs majors from a top school) were incredibly lucky because we were in a permanent bull run so as long as we were invested in almost any tech stock, we did well. Almost all of us hit one million mark before early 2020 and that became 2 million at the end of 2021. I would love for this to continue forever but…

Golden handcuffs are a good thing. It's such a first world problem to complain about golden handcuffs. "Oh no, I'm making $300k/yr over my nominal market value!"

Re: My Path to Financial Independence as a Software Engineer

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To have 1 MM USD/EUR at the end of your thirties given an average 4 % yearly return on investment, you need to save around 4.000 USD/EUR per month starting at age 25. In Europe, if you earn around 100k EUR per year your free income will be around 5.000-6.000 EUR per month. Saving 4.000 EUR / month is doable with that but you'll have to live very frugally, not traveling much and you better not start a family unless yo…

I'd say the HN crowd is more likely to be in that top quintile than not
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