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Re: Use deep fake tech to say stuff with your favorite characters

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Post by smoldesu »

JasonFruit wrote: post #19

Fictional characters, sure. Real people? That's crossing a line. I believe I own myself, and manipulating my face and voice to say what I did not and never would say is a misuse of my property. I can't fully justify that belief, but I would certainly be enraged beyond reason to see a representation of my principled father speaking against his values.

I agree. Now, who's going to be the one to step up to the plate and stop these rascals from running open-source code on their GPUs that allows for this kind of nonsense?

Re: Use deep fake tech to say stuff with your favorite characters

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Post by smoldesu »

ronsor wrote: post #5

It's worth mentioning that one similar site is 15.ai[1] [1] https://15.ai

15.ai was the original, in a lot of regards. I used to chat with the dude on 4chan, he was a genuinely intelligent (albeit rather socially awkward) guy, and a bit of a perfectionist at that. The downside was that there was always downtime and a few hidden servers floating around. The upside was... almost perfect voice synthesis, even a year ago.

Re: Use deep fake tech to say stuff with your favorite characters

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Post by JasonFruit »

smoldesu wrote: post #21
JasonFruit wrote: post #19

Fictional characters, sure. Real people? That's crossing a line. I believe I own myself, and manipulating my face and voice to say what I did not and never would say is a misuse of my property. I can't fully justify that belief, but I would certainly be enraged beyond reason to see a representation of my principled father speaking against his values.

I agree. Now, who's going to be the one to step up to the plate and stop these rascals from running open-source code on their GPUs that allows for this kind of nonsense?

I don't want to force them; I want them to refrain.

Re: Use deep fake tech to say stuff with your favorite characters

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Post by gmiller123456 »

JasonFruit wrote: post #19

Fictional characters, sure. Real people? That's crossing a line. I believe I own myself, and manipulating my face and voice to say what I did not and never would say is a misuse of my property. I can't fully justify that belief, but I would certainly be enraged beyond reason to see a representation of my principled father speaking against his values.

There are plenty of ethical uses for using this with real people. Entertainment, a language interpreter, helping disabled people communicate, etc. The lines don't change based on what technology is available, it can, however, make it easier for people to cross them.

Re: Use deep fake tech to say stuff with your favorite characters

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Post by spywaregorilla »

JasonFruit wrote: post #19

Fictional characters, sure. Real people? That's crossing a line. I believe I own myself, and manipulating my face and voice to say what I did not and never would say is a misuse of my property. I can't fully justify that belief, but I would certainly be enraged beyond reason to see a representation of my principled father speaking against his values.

Much as with other things, the problem isn't the creation of the lie, its the publishing of it. I can claim your dad spoke against his values, publish a fake document, draw or photoshop a photo showing him committing a horrendous crime, etc.. Publishing something anonymously as a fake primary document is vaguely new but probably not going to be too common.

It's pretty dumb to suggest that I shouldn't be allowed to create something on my computer privately that I can just imagine on my own, imo.

Re: Use deep fake tech to say stuff with your favorite characters

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Post by spywaregorilla »

JasonFruit wrote: post #24
smoldesu wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree. Now, who's going to be the one to step up to the plate and stop these rascals from running open-source code on their GPUs that allows for this kind of nonsense?

I don't want to force them; I want them to refrain.

And if they refuse?

Re: Use deep fake tech to say stuff with your favorite characters

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Post by t0suj4 »

JasonFruit wrote: post #19

Fictional characters, sure. Real people? That's crossing a line. I believe I own myself, and manipulating my face and voice to say what I did not and never would say is a misuse of my property. I can't fully justify that belief, but I would certainly be enraged beyond reason to see a representation of my principled father speaking against his values.

I want to point out that there are people that sound or look like famous characters/actors all their life and are being, in some cases, mocked for that.

Now imagine people getting sued for being themselves.

I think there should be, at most, a protection covered by libel laws as written today and nothing more. Otherwise we risk getting into that mess.

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