Steam has been banned in China

Post by chancho » Sat, Dec 25, 2021, 5:31 PM UTC

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Both. I have been refused access to a place because the landlord was openly racist and didn't want to rent to me after she found out I was a foreigner. There is pretty much no recourse for foreigners who are victims of racism in China, it's an extremely racist country. When you're a foreigner you just kinda have to accept that there are people who will cross the street or shield their kids when they see you, loudly c…

Facing discrimination when you are foreigner is pretty common in most countries. I think if you are from the white diaspora you wouldn't have noticed in the western countries but every time a friend (I am from India) goes to countries in NA & EU, there is almost always some form of discrimination preventing access to service or being overcharged without legal intervention.

Post by angio » Sat, Dec 25, 2021, 5:34 PM UTC

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I am European and not affiliated in any way with China. And don't want to whitewash them. Still, there is a double standard regarding China vs the Western World. While China gets (IMHO deserved) criticism for their territorial claims and human right abuse, the Iraq War (over 400k deaths) was "business as usual". The same goes with anti-pandemic restrictions - when it happens in China, it's an authoritarian rule. When…

Not really. The Iraq war was horrible and unnecessary and I doubt you’ll find too many people here who’ll say otherwise. But it was the past and it’s settled. China is happening now.

Post by ErikVandeWater » Sat, Dec 25, 2021, 5:39 PM UTC

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> If that's gone, I'm going to have a hard time not making the CCP my mortal enemy Wouldn't be a bad choice, regardless of what happens with Steam.

The Chinese government != the Chinese people. Whenever geopolitics separates artists from their audiences, it’s just sad. It’s in a similar vein of when total war is waged; the governments talk a big game but it’s the common, every day people who suffer. If you have an axe to grind be advised to make sure it’s targeted at the right people.

Post by jquery » Sat, Dec 25, 2021, 5:46 PM UTC

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Post by gavinray » Sat, Dec 25, 2021, 5:46 PM UTC

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I really love how we all have an impression of China as a country without access to global internet, but then there are things like "Most Chinese Steam users have historically been using the global service instead". Really makes you want to visit and see how this actually works for yourself. The more I read about China, the more unbelievably contradictive it gets.

I'm personally opposed to the idea of visiting certain countries, such as China and North Korea, to 'see for yourself', especially when you don't know the language, when you're not willing to risk your life to understand and uncover the parts the government doesn't want you to see, like VICE did in Xinjiang: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7AYyUqrMuQ That being said, if you go then please try to walk into a random h…