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Re: Shrooms: What You Need to Know

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Post by Bradlinc » Sat, Dec 25, 2021, 4:30 PM UTC

c54 wrote: post #25

tyingq wrote: post #14

Never did any type of psychedelics. You don't read much about "death by misadventure" associated with them though. I'm curious about this. Alcohol, for example, is pretty famous for clouding judgement, reducing inhibition, and so on. Such that otherwise rational people drive intoxicated, get into fights, fall asleep in inappropriate places, fall off of and into things, etc. Psychedelics obviously cause you to halluci…

The hallucination affected by psychedelics such as mushrooms isn't what you might expect. It's not a fully synthetic kind of "i now see an object that is not actually there". There won't be a floating pink elephant in the middle of the room. Instead the effect at most normal doses (3.5g) is more that the walls and floors seem to take on a slightly ephemeral breathing characteristic. You may see patterns in things of…

I was disappointed the first time I took mushrooms because I didn't see pink elephants. I thought I hadn't taken a high enough dosage. In its place I took a deep trip that allowed me to reflect on where I was in my life, which was more profound then seeing pink elephants. Oddly it too me a couple of weeks to realize that was the point.

Re: Shrooms: What You Need to Know

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Post by 5e92cb50239222b » Sat, Dec 25, 2021, 4:51 PM UTC

c54 wrote: post #25

tyingq wrote: post #14

Never did any type of psychedelics. You don't read much about "death by misadventure" associated with them though. I'm curious about this. Alcohol, for example, is pretty famous for clouding judgement, reducing inhibition, and so on. Such that otherwise rational people drive intoxicated, get into fights, fall asleep in inappropriate places, fall off of and into things, etc. Psychedelics obviously cause you to halluci…

The hallucination affected by psychedelics such as mushrooms isn't what you might expect. It's not a fully synthetic kind of "i now see an object that is not actually there". There won't be a floating pink elephant in the middle of the room. Instead the effect at most normal doses (3.5g) is more that the walls and floors seem to take on a slightly ephemeral breathing characteristic. You may see patterns in things of…

Note that you very much can get "floating pink elephants", but not from psychedelics — you need to get into deliriants for that: Datura plant in small doses, red mushrooms, diphenhydramine or amantadine in large doses, and some other stuff (like these tablets from military first-aid kits: https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/Aprofene).

These things were somewhat popular in my language segment of the internet about ten years ago. A lot of people were experimenting with the stuff. Usually one trip was more than enough to never want to repeat that again.

Try reading some trip reports on erowid if you're curious.

https://www.erowid.org/general/big_chart.shtml

Re: Shrooms: What You Need to Know

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Post by aqme28 » Sat, Dec 25, 2021, 4:52 PM UTC

a_throwaway_3 wrote: post #27

What you need to know is that it will make you dumb and stupid, and you'll sit there giggling to yourself incapable of any coherent thought, like a drooling idiot. At least that's what it'll look like from the outside. From the inside, you'll feel like you've opened a door to a magical land of true understanding, like the veneer of convention has peeled off the world and you can finally see the underlying superstrutu…

> Life's too short.

Life's too short not to at least try something new and unique and harmless, no? It only costs you an afternoon.

Re: Shrooms: What You Need to Know

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Post by inDigiNeous » Sat, Dec 25, 2021, 5:03 PM UTC

a_throwaway_3 wrote: post #27

What you need to know is that it will make you dumb and stupid, and you'll sit there giggling to yourself incapable of any coherent thought, like a drooling idiot. At least that's what it'll look like from the outside. From the inside, you'll feel like you've opened a door to a magical land of true understanding, like the veneer of convention has peeled off the world and you can finally see the underlying superstrutu…

This comment is just plain wrong. It has been even studied and proven scientifically that for example psilocin, one of the main components of the psilocybe family of mushrooms promotes neuroplasticity and neuritogenesis (Neuritogenesis is a key process required during development of the mammalian brain). [1]

So, the completely reverse of what you said is true, mushrooms can actually promote repairing the brain and strengthen new, more healthy connections within it.

* [1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6082376/

Re: Shrooms: What You Need to Know

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Post by klyrs » Sat, Dec 25, 2021, 5:09 PM UTC

tyingq wrote: post #14

Never did any type of psychedelics. You don't read much about "death by misadventure" associated with them though. I'm curious about this. Alcohol, for example, is pretty famous for clouding judgement, reducing inhibition, and so on. Such that otherwise rational people drive intoxicated, get into fights, fall asleep in inappropriate places, fall off of and into things, etc. Psychedelics obviously cause you to halluci…

My dad had some pretty wild stories about near-death misadventures. He stopped after he came home tripping and my mom made him change a diaper...

I learned from these stories: don't drive on hallucinogens, and don't trip when you've got real-life responsibilities.

Re: Shrooms: What You Need to Know

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Post by inDigiNeous » Sat, Dec 25, 2021, 5:13 PM UTC

shroomer wrote: post #11

I did 2g of dried shrooms about a week ago, having almost no prior experience. It was fun - I was seeing funny things, my friends looked funny, I laughed a lot, was a lot more talkative and social. My only issue was a tension headache which started about when the first effects came on and was even worse the day after, lashing until about 24 hours after the mushrooms were taken. My friends did not get the headache. Ot…

Each and every psychedelic experience can be totally different, not directly even related to the amount you take. Set and setting, and your mindset and preparation, the intention that you take while you do it matter a lot.

Eating 2g of dried mushrooms can be a life changing experience, or just a fun evening wondering on about the world. It can even not work at all, or give you just a slight feeling of being in an altered state.

Personally, after experiencing mushrooms and other psychedelics over a 10 year period of time, these days even a small under 1g dose can bring a very strong experience.

Depends a lot also what you have eaten before the experience, how you have prepared for it etc etc .. maybe the headache is something that the mushrooms just brought to the surface in that moment, might not happen on your second time.

Re: Shrooms: What You Need to Know

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Post by BurningFrog » Sat, Dec 25, 2021, 5:13 PM UTC

SOLAR_FIELDS wrote: post #30

a_throwaway_3 wrote: post #27

What you need to know is that it will make you dumb and stupid, and you'll sit there giggling to yourself incapable of any coherent thought, like a drooling idiot. At least that's what it'll look like from the outside. From the inside, you'll feel like you've opened a door to a magical land of true understanding, like the veneer of convention has peeled off the world and you can finally see the underlying superstrutu…

Counterpoint: psychedelics helped me overcome a lifelong problem with social anxiety and helped me to overcome fear of dancing in public. Over a decade later I can still say that the changes they made have had a profound and long-lasting positive impact on my life.

How specifically did it help with your social anxiety?

Re: Shrooms: What You Need to Know

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Post by beej71 » Sat, Dec 25, 2021, 5:13 PM UTC

tyingq wrote: post #14

Never did any type of psychedelics. You don't read much about "death by misadventure" associated with them though. I'm curious about this. Alcohol, for example, is pretty famous for clouding judgement, reducing inhibition, and so on. Such that otherwise rational people drive intoxicated, get into fights, fall asleep in inappropriate places, fall off of and into things, etc. Psychedelics obviously cause you to halluci…

From what I hear, the idea of doing anything complex like driving a car is extremely unappealing under the effects of mushrooms.

Re: Shrooms: What You Need to Know

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Post by CPLX » Sat, Dec 25, 2021, 5:17 PM UTC

tyingq wrote: post #14

Never did any type of psychedelics. You don't read much about "death by misadventure" associated with them though. I'm curious about this. Alcohol, for example, is pretty famous for clouding judgement, reducing inhibition, and so on. Such that otherwise rational people drive intoxicated, get into fights, fall asleep in inappropriate places, fall off of and into things, etc. Psychedelics obviously cause you to halluci…

1) They’re not addictive in the classic sense where people are habituated and have to take them every day.

2) As far as I know there’s no straightforward way to test for them and I’d have to assume people who are high on psychedelics that get into an accident aren’t excited to volunteer the information.

Re: Shrooms: What You Need to Know

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Post by Jim_Heckler » Sat, Dec 25, 2021, 5:19 PM UTC

5e92cb50239222b wrote: post #32

c54 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The hallucination affected by psychedelics such as mushrooms isn't what you might expect. It's not a fully synthetic kind of "i now see an object that is not actually there". There won't be a floating pink elephant in the middle of the room. Instead the effect at most normal doses (3.5g) is more that the walls and floors seem to take on a slightly ephemeral breathing characteristic. You may see patterns in things of…

Note that you very much can get "floating pink elephants", but not from psychedelics — you need to get into deliriants for that: Datura plant in small doses, red mushrooms, diphenhydramine or amantadine in large doses, and some other stuff (like these tablets from military first-aid kits: https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/Aprofene ). These things were somewhat popular in my language segment of the internet ab…

Deliriants are fascinating, and the experience sounds absolutely nightmarish. The most interesting thing to me is how the most common feature of every trip of some of the drugs (I think Datura and dph) is repeatedly thinking you're smoking a cigarette, accidentally dropping it then realizing there was no cigarette. And it happens to people who've never smoked.