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Re: Microsoft forked MIT licensed repo and changed the copyright [fixed]

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Post by hdjjhhvvhga » Sat, Dec 25, 2021, 4:42 PM UTC

drnonsense42 wrote: post #181

osolo wrote: post #178

The attitude in these threads always boggles my mind. When YOU, your teammates or someone else you know makes a mistake, then it’s just a mistake. But when someone at Microsoft makes a mistake it’s because Microsoft is evil and by extension so is the person who offended. “It’s a big company”, you say. They should have a process! And I’m sad to say, they do/will have a process exactly because of this attitude. Then, e…

Yeah, get that promotion! Developers, developers, developers!

I think your comments does not add anything meaningful to discussion. Yes, Microsoft screwed up. Yes, a Microsoft employee is trying to make excuses for them. This does not mean we couldn't have a civilized discussion, though.

Re: Microsoft forked MIT licensed repo and changed the copyright [fixed]

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Post by jen20 » Sat, Dec 25, 2021, 4:42 PM UTC

TedDoesntTalk wrote: post #123

jen20 wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because it isn’t in compliance with the terms of many popular licenses to create derivative works without attribution. Therefore the only possible claim Microsoft have to do so is via terms and conditions, which would not apply to code hosted on a stand-alone website. It might be time for popular licenses to update themselves for this new-found threat.

> it isn’t in compliance with the terms of many popular licenses to create derivative works without attribution Did you click the link for this article? Did you see that MS removed the author’s name in the license header and replaced it with their own?

Yes?

Re: Microsoft forked MIT licensed repo and changed the copyright [fixed]

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Post by bayindirh » Sat, Dec 25, 2021, 4:43 PM UTC

akyoan wrote: post #189

bayindirh wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Eh, considering Microsoft made similar "harmless" mistakes in the past, I don't give them "harmless mistake" credits. e.g.: Anyone remembering AppGet? [0][1] [0]: https://www.theverge.com/2020/5/28/21272964/microsoft-winget... [1]: https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/2/21277863/microsoft-winget-...

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> Do you have brain?

Just tapped to my head, looks like there's one.

> Leave a message when you realize that forking a repo on GitHub is not the same as publishing a copy under your name.

First, you send me a message when you realize you can't just change an MIT License's copyright line as you see fit, then we can discuss the rest.

Also, milking knowledge from someone with an implicit promise of hiring, and re-implementing the software and tossing the original developer aside like an orange pulp is nowhere ethical.

Re: Microsoft forked MIT licensed repo and changed the copyright [fixed]

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Post by beervirus » Sat, Dec 25, 2021, 4:44 PM UTC

osolo wrote: post #178

The attitude in these threads always boggles my mind. When YOU, your teammates or someone else you know makes a mistake, then it’s just a mistake. But when someone at Microsoft makes a mistake it’s because Microsoft is evil and by extension so is the person who offended. “It’s a big company”, you say. They should have a process! And I’m sad to say, they do/will have a process exactly because of this attitude. Then, e…

Y’all are not entitled to the benefit of the doubt any more than obviously-evil companies like Facebook are.

Re: Microsoft forked MIT licensed repo and changed the copyright [fixed]

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Post by caslon » Sat, Dec 25, 2021, 4:47 PM UTC

osolo wrote: post #178

The attitude in these threads always boggles my mind. When YOU, your teammates or someone else you know makes a mistake, then it’s just a mistake. But when someone at Microsoft makes a mistake it’s because Microsoft is evil and by extension so is the person who offended. “It’s a big company”, you say. They should have a process! And I’m sad to say, they do/will have a process exactly because of this attitude. Then, e…

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Re: Microsoft forked MIT licensed repo and changed the copyright [fixed]

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Post by [deleted] » Sat, Dec 25, 2021, 4:47 PM UTC

osolo wrote: post #178

The attitude in these threads always boggles my mind. When YOU, your teammates or someone else you know makes a mistake, then it’s just a mistake. But when someone at Microsoft makes a mistake it’s because Microsoft is evil and by extension so is the person who offended. “It’s a big company”, you say. They should have a process! And I’m sad to say, they do/will have a process exactly because of this attitude. Then, e…

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Re: Microsoft forked MIT licensed repo and changed the copyright [fixed]

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Post by Tyriar » Sat, Dec 25, 2021, 4:47 PM UTC

MS dev here. I contacted the internal repo owners to bring this to their attention, people may be out for the holidays but I expect it to get fixed up soon.

Re: Microsoft forked MIT licensed repo and changed the copyright [fixed]

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Post by yawnxyz » Sat, Dec 25, 2021, 4:47 PM UTC

bakul wrote: post #183

osolo wrote: post #178

The attitude in these threads always boggles my mind. When YOU, your teammates or someone else you know makes a mistake, then it’s just a mistake. But when someone at Microsoft makes a mistake it’s because Microsoft is evil and by extension so is the person who offended. “It’s a big company”, you say. They should have a process! And I’m sad to say, they do/will have a process exactly because of this attitude. Then, e…

How is running a bot to change copyright notices a /mistake/? > Full disclosure: I work for MS It is difficult to see the reality distortion field you are in from the inside.

I used to work for MS and... it's still easy to see it from the inside lol

Re: Microsoft forked MIT licensed repo and changed the copyright [fixed]

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Post by bennyp101 » Sat, Dec 25, 2021, 4:48 PM UTC

Could be it got caught by mistake?

I know I can run "Update Copyright" on my projects in JetBrains - could just be an innocent mistake that hit the wrong folder.

I know everyone jumps on the big corp as everything they do is intentional, but it's the holidays, someone was doing a bit of work, maybe not fully concentrating and hit push.

Seeing how quickly this was plastered everywhere, and the responses to it, do you really, like REALLY think that this is a deliberate play?

Re: Microsoft forked MIT licensed repo and changed the copyright [fixed]

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Post by throwaway277432 » Sat, Dec 25, 2021, 4:51 PM UTC

throwaway277432 wrote: post #186

osolo wrote: post #178

The attitude in these threads always boggles my mind. When YOU, your teammates or someone else you know makes a mistake, then it’s just a mistake. But when someone at Microsoft makes a mistake it’s because Microsoft is evil and by extension so is the person who offended. “It’s a big company”, you say. They should have a process! And I’m sad to say, they do/will have a process exactly because of this attitude. Then, e…

This is their process. Very hard to argue these are all mistakes: ippsample (Apache -> MIT) https://github.com/microsoft/ippsample/commit/938bff17c72868... huggingface-transformers (Apache -> MIT): https://github.com/microsoft/huggingface-transformers/commit... health-cards-tests (MIT changed) https://github.com/microsoft/health-cards-tests/commit/5649b... CUPS (Apache -> MIT) https://github.com/microsoft/cups/commit…

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