Shrooms: What You Need to Know
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Shrooms: What You Need to Know
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#2Tripsafe, Erowid, psychonaut and r/drugs are among the best ressources the web has been able to produce: thousands of actual trip reports, and empirically tested Risk Reductions procedures withtout stigma or judgement.
Dont do drugs as a illegal thing that give you the thrill of being a bad boy. Take a scientifi approach of risk evaluation, read testimonies and reports and ensure your own safety, as you would do for something like diving and skydiving.
Also never do drugs "because it makes you feel better when you are sad".
Dont hesitate to ask more question
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#3If you ever had this feeling telling you "This can't be it, there must be more to this story...", then you should at least consider this avenue.
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#4I grew some last Spring but have been too chicken since to try them. They're dried, but I don't know if they're dried enough. Does anyone know if there's any additional risk if they've gotten at all rotten?
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#5I grew some last Spring but have been too chicken since to try them. They're dried, but I don't know if they're dried enough. Does anyone know if there's any additional risk if they've gotten at all rotten?
Bacterial infection in shrooms typically smells like feet. Naturally they smell a bit like farts when you're eating then (but are mostly odorless when dried proper). I'd avoid them if the former and tolerate them if the latter.
They bruise blue (and it's hard to pick them without bruising the stems) which can look nearly black when dried. This can make them look moldy when they aren't. If they're actually moldy I'd toss them.
When I used to grow I settled on letting them sit on a grate with a fan blowing at them for a few days (the air is dry here, ymmv), then I'd store them with desiccant packets. They should be crispy like potato chips, no mushyness.
As for trepidation, that's understandable. I'd start with a super light dose (.5 g) at first just to see what you're dealing with. I'm glad I've had potent trips in the past (I usually find 3.5 g is enough, but it'll vary by batch and by human), but these days I usually dose lightly.
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#6I grew some last Spring but have been too chicken since to try them. They're dried, but I don't know if they're dried enough. Does anyone know if there's any additional risk if they've gotten at all rotten?
If there is a contamination then the risk is up to what contaminated them, but if they are just dried then the psilocin(1) breaks down eventually leaving you with just the psilocybin.
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#7Tripsafe, Erowid, psychonaut and r/drugs are among the best ressources the web has been able to produce: thousands of actual trip reports, and empirically tested Risk Reductions procedures withtout stigma or judgement. Dont do drugs as a illegal thing that give you the thrill of being a bad boy. Take a scientifi approach of risk evaluation, read testimonies and reports and ensure your own safety, as you would do for…
Agreed. I wonder about the bad things that didn't happen to me because I read about them on erowid instead, and recall fondly the ones that did happen to me because I read about them on erowid first.
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#8Keep in mind that “harm reduction” material shouldn’t be interpreted as a guide to avoiding all potential negative consequences.
When it comes to psychedelics, the pendulum of popular opinion has swung from an extreme of “extremely bad for you” to “actually good for you” but neither extreme is good, IMO.
It’s worth reading some of the material about how psychedelic users are weirdly prone to picking up strange beliefs. Not everyone of course, but even a large number of psychedelic researchers who were supposedly doing it the “right way” were still walking away with bizarre and irrational beliefs: https://slatestarcodex.com/2016/04/28/why-were-early-psyched...
These belief-shifting outcomes aren’t mentioned in harm reduction guides. In many cases, they’re actually celebrated by users with an implicit assumption that all belief changes from psychedelics must be inherently good. I think it’s important to understand that thoughts and feelings imparted by psychedelics aren’t real and may likely be entirely meaningless.
It’s also important to know that the thoughts and feelings and experiences induced by psychedelics aren’t necessarily entirely positive. The negative anecdotes tend to get lost among the hyperbole about psychedelics producing magical experiences, but it’s not hard to find stories about difficult trips or trips that induced long-lasting negative mental states on Internet forums. They tend to be downvote, ignored, or explained away by blaming the victim for doing it wrong. However, it is a very real and not uncommon possibility, which is why harm reduction guides emphasize the need for sitters to monitor the user and why every psychedelic research study had included 10X as much therapy sessions as psychedelic sessions.
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#9I grew some last Spring but have been too chicken since to try them. They're dried, but I don't know if they're dried enough. Does anyone know if there's any additional risk if they've gotten at all rotten?
You would probably know if they were rotten—smell and/or looks would be really off. As for whether they're dry, they're dry enough if they break apart easily—they should crack, not bend.
There's also no such thing as a minimum dose. People have found benefits with very small amounts (1/20g) if you're just curious—it literally cannot hurt.
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#10Keep in mind that “harm reduction” material shouldn’t be interpreted as a guide to avoiding all potential negative consequences. When it comes to psychedelics, the pendulum of popular opinion has swung from an extreme of “extremely bad for you” to “actually good for you” but neither extreme is good, IMO. It’s worth reading some of the material about how psychedelic users are weirdly prone to picking up strange belief…
> Not everyone of course, but even a large number of psychedelic researchers who were supposedly doing it the “right way” were still walking away with bizarre and irrational beliefs: https://slatestarcodex.com/2016/04/28/why-were-early-psyched...
That article gives examples of folks who most definitely were not using psychedelics safety. Timothy Leary is famous for his controversial experiments.
Moreover, LSD and mushrooms are often conflated in discussions like this, but it should be noted that the two drugs have widely different outcomes and safe usage parameters.