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Re: Steam has been banned in China

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Are western media free from propaganda though? Also when did UN called it a genocide? I googled it but found nothing specific. Mind sharing a link to the claim?

The ICC has not yet prosecuted China [1]. One would have to be quite thick to ignore Beijing's wanton criminality in its west. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghur_genocide

Is the ICC part of the UN?

Re: Steam has been banned in China

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I just asked my 23 years old sister if she knew what Steam was, she said no. I would guess that China doesn't have any big enough economic advantage of allowing steam, so maybe steam is not that really big that people think. Not to mention Valve takes a large cut of game sales so China has pretty good reasons to block it. Aren't PC game sales a big stagnant? And on all those sales, Steam seems to be interesting for i…

China seems more anti-game than it seems pro-profit in this case. Otherwise why limit children to 3 hours per week of gaming? Why ban images of “effeminate men”? To me, China seems to be preparing.

> To me, China seems to be preparing.

This is a really interesting perspective. If China is trying to masculinize its teenage male population, we could see it engage in conflict as soon as these teenagers grow into adults at their physical prime, 6-8 years from now.

I think it's entirely likely that China will attempt to annex Taiwan within the next 10 years.

I think we will also see China be one of the first countries to engage in large-scale cyberwarfare alongside any physical conflict, e.g. DOS'ing civilian communications.

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> So you think generally the news of vast human rights abuse we see coming out of China I think that generally western news have a tendency to misrepresent countries that are culturally different. E.g. as a Russian, reading western news about Russia makes me think that journalist play a broken telephone game, misrepresenting marginal stuff as some kind of insane norm, in a completely unnuanced way, without any contex…

Your argument basically boils down to “you should trust propaganda from the authoritarian Chinese government because I trust the propaganda from the authoritarian Russian government.” It’s not very convincing.

> Your argument basically boils down to “you should trust propaganda from the authoritarian Chinese government because I trust the propaganda from the authoritarian Russian government.”

What? Why? How? Where does this extreme binary logic come from? When have I said that he should "trust propaganda from the authoritarian Chinese government"? When have I said that "I trust the propaganda from the authoritarian Russian government"?

You don't need any "propaganda" to leave the house and live a life. I have all the empirical evidence I need to competently state "well, that's not how it works IRL" when I see some weird journalism full of factual errors and false assumptions.

Why are you acting as there is no personal experience?

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What? The US doesn't require anyone to register with the local government when traveling, foreigner or US citizen. Where are you getting this kind of misinformation?

Chinese misinformation campaign?

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What is going on here with the comment section? Seems like it's flooded with pro ccp activists

Standard practice anywhere you have Chinese people, most are perfectly reasonable but many are deeply indoctrinated nationalists. Unfortunately the rest aren’t willing or able to do anything about the genocide cheerleader squad.

Standard practice anywhere you have... people, most are perfectly reasonable but many are deeply indoctrinated nationalists.

Just a cursory reading of the comments in any topic about China will show you that their western counterparts are alive and kicking here

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That time is gone meanwhile. In late 2019 I had a very hard time getting access to my Gmail account, despite trying all the usual workarounds and staying in the best hotels in town. Even non-English news sites were blocked, sites that I could browse freely just a few years ago. Skype worked ok, but text chat only. Images never arrived.

Funnily enough, Google Fi worked just fine in late 2019. I’m wondering if foreign SIM cards are not subjected to filtering.

During my last visit using GoogleFI, the mobile phone shows a US IP when running whatismyip. So even though the phone is connected to the local telecom 5G network, traffic is segmented and routed back to the US carrier (T-Mobile in AWS US east IP ranges if I remember correctly) before hitting any website. So phones with GoogleFI sim works like a US client with a bit higher latency. This was really nice, but attempting to tether another device to the phone was a highly frustrating exercise as it did not work reliably whatsoever.

Re: Steam has been banned in China

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Depends on where she lived. Beijing, Shanghai and other first tier cities are ok for foreigners. The further away you get, the more blurry situation gets.

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The hell you talking about. I've been to roughly 40 states, and am "non-white" and have never had to do this shit at any hotel

Re: Steam has been banned in China

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To put it bluntly: Because we're better than them.

Not by a large margin, but yes, yes you are, to some extent still. I just wished you and Europe where as good as your PR, I really and genuinely do

Impossible. You are thinking about it as an exercise in rationality and morals. This is a fight of chimp tribes, all the bla bla about human rights,justice, liberty is a very thin coat about the hate for the other band of apes. We are talking about 7 million years of evolution in action.

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I'm personally opposed to the idea of visiting certain countries, such as China and North Korea, to 'see for yourself', especially when you don't know the language, when you're not willing to risk your life to understand and uncover the parts the government doesn't want you to see, like VICE did in Xinjiang: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7AYyUqrMuQ That being said, if you go then please try to walk into a random h…

On a lower frequency, this similar to why I'm not interested in tourism as "self-discovery", "new experience", or some shit, like the rest of the world is just stage and props for my existential theatre. I'm not gonna change as a human unless I actually move there to live permanently. Even worse, the middle-class trend to make the number of distinct places you've visited some form of social currency ("how many stamps…

Are you saying Africans and (black, which I assume you mean but I’m trying to be charitable) people in your city are basically the same? I imagine the lives and cultures in Africa are vastly different than whatever city you’re in.
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