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Re: Steam has been banned in China

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It is amusing. They could have gone on filling the oceans with plastic and using banned CFCs and gamifying life on Earth through Social Credit all while enjoying near total deference from the prevailing virtuegeist of the West. But instead they chose to mess with LGBTQ and all of the sudden they're evil incarnate.

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Re: Steam has been banned in China

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In my eyes, the attack on 'effeminate men' is the nail in the coffin for the government of China. They are as dead to me and my actions will reflect it. Down with Emperor Pooh!

It's less than 'final nail', but rather sign that government has no better topics, than crude mix of chauvinism an and emotional manipulation. Cf. Russian progression from 'ignore politics, look at economic growth' -> 'ignore politics for economical stability sake' -> 'ignore politics or homos will diddle your kids'

Re: Steam has been banned in China

#43
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Note: this refers to the global Steam service/community - Valve still offers Steam China with a very limited/censored selection of mostly-Valve games, adhering to local child protection laws. Most Chinese Steam users have historically been using the global service instead, as this Chinese version of Steam has only been available since February 2021.

I really love how we all have an impression of China as a country without access to global internet, but then there are things like "Most Chinese Steam users have historically been using the global service instead". Really makes you want to visit and see how this actually works for yourself. The more I read about China, the more unbelievably contradictive it gets.

IME the Great Firewall doesn't outright block global traffic apart from some selected services, but makes them so unreliable and slow that it's almost impossible to directly connect and use services from the other side (think 'analog modem speed'), companies (maybe just IT companies, not sure) can get an exemption (they need to connect to github after all), but even then it's not very reliable.

If Steam had a working 'global service' then it almost certainly used local datacenters as proxy. But AFAIK PC gaming is pretty much seen as a niche for computer nerds though (apart from E-Sports), gaming mostly happens on mobile phones.

Re: Steam has been banned in China

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Note: this refers to the global Steam service/community - Valve still offers Steam China with a very limited/censored selection of mostly-Valve games, adhering to local child protection laws. Most Chinese Steam users have historically been using the global service instead, as this Chinese version of Steam has only been available since February 2021.

I really love how we all have an impression of China as a country without access to global internet, but then there are things like "Most Chinese Steam users have historically been using the global service instead". Really makes you want to visit and see how this actually works for yourself. The more I read about China, the more unbelievably contradictive it gets.

You should be sceptical of all the news about China that come from the West.

Re: Steam has been banned in China

#45
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What is going on here with the comment section? Seems like it's flooded with pro ccp activists

You'll find the same with any article critical of China.

The party is paying people (quite well) to defend China online. It's another kind of misinformation campaign.

Re: Steam has been banned in China

#46
"we've always been at war with eastasia"

The major problem I see, is that every major power uses propaganda to their benefit, yet even highly intelligent people often don't see the propaganda of their native (or chosen) home.

I see the propaganda of China, Russia as well as the one of the US and Europe.

There are no white, selfless knights around. There never were.

Does that mean that nothing matters, that (subjective) morale suddenly is meaningless?

Of course it doesn't!

But it puts "them vs us" into perspective.

Humans are humans and act like humans all around the world.

Re: Steam has been banned in China

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Note: this refers to the global Steam service/community - Valve still offers Steam China with a very limited/censored selection of mostly-Valve games, adhering to local child protection laws. Most Chinese Steam users have historically been using the global service instead, as this Chinese version of Steam has only been available since February 2021.

I really love how we all have an impression of China as a country without access to global internet, but then there are things like "Most Chinese Steam users have historically been using the global service instead". Really makes you want to visit and see how this actually works for yourself. The more I read about China, the more unbelievably contradictive it gets.

It is indeed a country full of contradictions.

I was there in 2016, and besides the usual, like Google, Netflix, Facebook or Twitter, most western sites seemed to work, just very, very slow for some reason.

Also, some high end hotels did provide unfettered access to the Internet for some reason, so I guess anyone could go there and browse Facebook for the price of an expensive coffee.

Re: Steam has been banned in China

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In my eyes, the attack on 'effeminate men' is the nail in the coffin for the government of China. They are as dead to me and my actions will reflect it. Down with Emperor Pooh!

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Why don't you link what seem to be private NPPA requirements?

It's also a real stretch to say it's about mockery. It's about encouraging "correct values". I have a hard time seeing this as an argument in good faith, it's so far from any factual basis or even arguments from anyone like Chinese nationalists, who would argue that homosexuality is Western moral corruption.

Re: Steam has been banned in China

#49
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Recently I have been getting a lot more annoyed about China. Sure they can ban things, it's their right. But I just don't understand why we are not doing the same.

To put it bluntly: Because we're better than them.

Yet we are allowing human right abuses? I think we only care about money, that's why we allow this to happen.

Just look at Intel right now, apologizing for not using slave labour...

Re: Steam has been banned in China

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> The move comes as a surprise

How dense and gullible do you have to be?

Do people keep forgetting they’re dealing with an authoritarian dictatorship?

ANYTHING is on the table, nothing should come as a surprise.

Divest from China and diversify manufacturing sources, otherwise we will wake up one day imprisoned, and „the move will come as a surprise“

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