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Carol Bartz Out at Yahoo; CFO Interim CEO

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Re: Carol Bartz Out at Yahoo; CFO Interim CEO

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Post by voidfiles »

omouse wrote: post #35
ethank wrote: post #4

Yahoo needs someone who can clearly articulate what Yahoo does. There is no "product" to draft behind, just a disjointed set of technologies which individually are great (as someone pointed out, YUI and Hadoop, etc), but holistically don't have any focus. Google had the same problem, but they are now shedding this.

Why not ask the employees who actually WORK on their products what the heck Yahoo's vision for the future should be? Crowdsource the company vision so you don't have to rely on someone like Steve Jobs magically appearing out of nowhere.

They do. There are numerous attempts internally at Yahoo to solicit feedback. I don't think they listen. Besides that people see such a sliver of what yahoo does overall that individual feedback like that can often be unhelpful at a corporate level.

Re: Carol Bartz Out at Yahoo; CFO Interim CEO

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Post by sgns »

diego wrote: post #16

The problem is that Yahoo was born as a product that became obsolete quickly. It has no DNA anymore, it's just a collection of various media services. It's not a computer, or a piece of software, or a social network. It was a directory of web links. A library. It's doubtful that a Steve Jobs could come back to Yahoo and get it back in touch with its roots. IMHO, their best bet is to sell.

There's an emotional connection that many geeks have to Yahoo: I know I'd still like to like it. If they made something that made us all go "Aaaaw....", we'd recommend the hell out of it, and soon enough it could replace Google News for some people, for example. And from that the next step would not be too long.

Imagine if they had a great news reading and exploring service integrated in a smart way with a reading list/book marking service - like del.icio.us? (ouch...) They have had great technology.

Re: Carol Bartz Out at Yahoo; CFO Interim CEO

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Post by yuhong »

mynameishere wrote: post #29
gcb wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

implying microsoft acquisition of a big competitor is a good thing.

He screwed the company's owners out of many millions of dollars. Microsoft may well have killed and gutted the fish, but the CEO's responsibility is to the shareholders.

On that matter, IMO the Revlon duties should be completely eliminated.

Re: Carol Bartz Out at Yahoo; CFO Interim CEO

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Post by stuff4ben »

lawnchair_larry wrote: post #36
daimyoyo wrote: post #2

Finally. Carol may have been a decent operations manager, but Yahoo needs a product driven leader. You can't cost cut your way to new users.

Funny, isn't that a description of Tim Cook and Apple now?

I disagree. AOL and Yahoo don't have someone like Jonathan Ive who is, for all intents and purposes, Apple's "product guy". Jobs was just the guy that focused and drove them all to excellence.

Re: Carol Bartz Out at Yahoo; CFO Interim CEO

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Post by MatthewPhillips »

ethank wrote: post #4

Yahoo needs someone who can clearly articulate what Yahoo does. There is no "product" to draft behind, just a disjointed set of technologies which individually are great (as someone pointed out, YUI and Hadoop, etc), but holistically don't have any focus. Google had the same problem, but they are now shedding this.

Google didn't have a product? When?

Re: Carol Bartz Out at Yahoo; CFO Interim CEO

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Post by jurjenh »

jmjerlecki wrote: post #7

This was a great diatribe against Carol. If you guys missed it from a couple of months back an angry shareholder confronts Bartz. He's dead on and with this now happening – absolutely right. http://soundcloud.com/erickschonfeld/yahoo-sharehloder-rant

Is there a transcript of it anywhere? Never mind, just found it: http://www.alacrastore.com/research/thomson-streetevents-Yah...

It's at the end, I believe he was the last speaker...

Re: Carol Bartz Out at Yahoo; CFO Interim CEO

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Post by CamperBob »

lawnchair_larry wrote: post #36
daimyoyo wrote: post #2

Finally. Carol may have been a decent operations manager, but Yahoo needs a product driven leader. You can't cost cut your way to new users.

Funny, isn't that a description of Tim Cook and Apple now?

No. Cook is arguably as responsible for Apple's recent success as Jobs, if not more so.
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