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A Survey of Programmers' Cannabis Usage, Perception, and Motivation

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Re: A Survey of Programmers' Cannabis Usage, Perception, and Motivation

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Post by systemvoltage »

frank_nitti wrote: post #207
j4hdufd8 wrote: post #82

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> I absolutely cannot believe this study What do you not believe about the study? Did you read the study? > In this paper, we presented results of the first empirical study of cannabis’s prevalence, perceptions, and usage motivations in programming environments I don't think this study says "weed makes you better" or anything like that.

Thanks for calling out one of the many people responding without reading the material, not even the abstract apparently. HN users are typically better about this than other platforms, but this topic seems to be especially triggering for people who have had some negative life experience related to weed.

My issues isn't just with regards to this paper, but with the general narratives that are being spun around weed. They're not objective IMO and there is some sort of societal pressure against seeking truth. That's how I feel with proponents of weed. Don't get me wrong - personally, Marijuana is a lot of fun but I'd want to not get carried away. I also believe in individual liberty and I don't condone banning weed.

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Post by ok_dad »

phonethrowaway wrote: post #242
ok_dad wrote: post #191

I used to vape full spectrum THC+CBD cartridges and other forms of "vape juice" ("sugar", "oil", etc. are in that category) and consume THC+CBD edibles all day long, every day (except when I had to drive somewhere, I would stop for 4-6 hours or more prior to the trip), for about 2-3 (maybe 4?) years when I was in a legal state, but then I had to move to a non-legal state and since I have a kid it's no longer possible…

The farm bill made all hemp derived products legal federally at long as they contain only trace amounts of Delta 9 THC. Delta 8 and THC-O/acetate are legal. Not as strong, slightly different, but it gets the job done... kinda. Check it out... if you can. Check your state laws.

I could easily get the real thing here, it’s not exactly weed unfriendly, but due to the nature of the thing I don’t want to risk losing my child to the system for even one puff. I’m pretty much just fine sober, but I hope reason wins here soon and they legalize it fully, until then I prefer not to take any risky shortcuts.

Re: A Survey of Programmers' Cannabis Usage, Perception, and Motivation

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Post by seabrookmx »

stareblinkstare wrote: post #219
mythrwy wrote: post #203

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There was a pretty high profile case in New Mexico of Chinese growers setting up shop on the Navajo reservation. It was a big operation too. (you can probably search for better articles, here is one I just found) https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56835897

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You'd help your case if you provided sources like I did.

Re: A Survey of Programmers' Cannabis Usage, Perception, and Motivation

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Post by fallingfrog »

It does help you write code, which is strange since it doesn’t help you do other things better. Perhaps it’s a matter of dosage though- a little bit helps you get in the zone and visualize the data. But I can’t smoke anymore because I have children I’m responsible for.

Re: A Survey of Programmers' Cannabis Usage, Perception, and Motivation

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Post by fallingfrog »

ok_coo wrote: post #195
neveradmitmyid wrote: post #135

I've been a heavy, 1 oz. of Indica a week smoker for decades, while being an extremely productive lead and principal software engineer on dozens of highly visible tech products. I am part of a heavy smoking, high tech collective of startup and career research individuals from companies people use everyday. I start my day with a combination of THC and caffeine, which folds into a deep work and research focus lasting t…

The hippie speedball makes me ultra-productive, but unfortunately employers (well, mine) are probably not cool with me being high on Zoom calls. :/ I just wanted to chime in and say that, for some people, THC+caffeine in the right settings can give you a nice hyper-focus. I wish I could use the combo more often.

Adding caffeine to thc only gives me a lot of anxiety and a sense of generalized dread, honestly. It leaves me unable to sit down and focus on anything, I have to get up and pace around.

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Post by datavirtue »

ineptech wrote: post #210
datavirtue wrote: post #142

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This fits mwith my experience. When my tasks are defined and are left only to implement I can plow through a lot of work. If I have to develop (or much worse, alter) abstractions that make use of generics and OOP I do not feel productive at all. I get very confused, easily. (Though I often power through it just fine) I do not smoke during business hours while working on client systems however, that does not sound app…

This is interesting, I wish it were that easy for me. Do you do any prep work, i.e. "story planning" (presumably in a less formal way than you would at work)? I find that, for my side projects, I can do a lot of damage while high IFF I have a very clear idea of exactly how the feature should work; but if sober me hasn't worked out clear acceptance criteria for the thing I'm doing, either I daydream and don't actually…

It's hard to describe my design and planning approach. I have tried to enforce a structure like we do at work...epics...stories etc. Ends up slowing me down and wasting a bunch of time.

I know the domain very well, so it's like the SME or product owner who is also an experienced developer just cranking shit out. I work with a visual designer for the UI which lets me play around with different concepts very quickly. I just iterate very quickly in code and in the UI, expressing myself...it's more art than science.

I may plan to do something, and then sit down and get interested in a totally different feature...it is very important to do the thing that thrills me in the moment. It increases quality and ideation momentum.

Re: A Survey of Programmers' Cannabis Usage, Perception, and Motivation

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Post by j4hdufd8 »

systemvoltage wrote: post #261
frank_nitti wrote: post #207

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for calling out one of the many people responding without reading the material, not even the abstract apparently. HN users are typically better about this than other platforms, but this topic seems to be especially triggering for people who have had some negative life experience related to weed.

My issues isn't just with regards to this paper, but with the general narratives that are being spun around weed. They're not objective IMO and there is some sort of societal pressure against seeking truth. That's how I feel with proponents of weed. Don't get me wrong - personally, Marijuana is a lot of fun but I'd want to not get carried away. I also believe in individual liberty and I don't condone banning weed.

> They're not objective IMO and there is some sort of societal pressure against seeking truth

In my (speculative) opinion, it's not "societal pressure" but rather "capitalism pressure" narrating the recent weed uprise. As in, the opportunity to capitalize on weed has been pushing the narrative that it's a harmless cool drug.

The risks of heavy cannabis use are well documented and easily available to those who care to research it. For example, try CTRL+F "cannabis" on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizophrenia.

Once again, just like alcohol and tobacco, capitalism wins over public health.

Re: A Survey of Programmers' Cannabis Usage, Perception, and Motivation

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Post by veidelis »

netizen-936824 wrote: post #167
criticaltinker wrote: post #126

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Not going to bed stoned should be a recommended best practice in my opinion, especially given all the research supporting the fact that sleep is impaired by Cannabis much the same way as alcohol. So many people claim that Cannabis helps them sleep but the science just doesn’t support that idea.

I definitely agree that cannabinoids mess the sleep processes, but without cannabinoids at night (even during periods when I'm not adapted to them) I wake up easily 6+ times during the night just to urinate. Its a horrible experience that's easily solved with cannabinoids, but there are likely other solutions to whatever is actually causing the problem. I do stop or slow my water intake a while before bed but this do…

It is possible that cannabinoids help with this because it changes the way you breathe - deeper and more active breaths in lower part of the stomach will help to relax bladder and the urge will be much softer. Abs training may help as well like knee raises while hanging on a bar.

Re: A Survey of Programmers' Cannabis Usage, Perception, and Motivation

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Post by 0xdeadb00f »

throwaway599281 wrote: post #5

> Furthermore, this cannabis usage is primarily motivated by a perceived enhancement to certain software development skills (such as brainstorming or getting into a programming zone) rather than medicinal reasons How can anyone who has tried it remotely believe this nonsense?

It's great for brainstorming! In fact I get the wildest ideas for programs software and the like while high in bed.
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