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Children develop robust and sustained cross-reactive immunity after Covid

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Re: Children develop robust and sustained cross-reactive immunity after Covid

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Serious question: should we let this more infectious but less dangerous run its course to achieve natural immunity? What are the arguments for and against this strategy?

I know that if it is 5 times less likely to put people in hospitals but 10 times more transmissible then there will be 2 times more people in hospitals, but are there more arguments?

Re: Children develop robust and sustained cross-reactive immunity after Covid

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Finally some glimmers of hope in moving past Covid.. if Omicron continues on its current track of highly infectious but less serious —- and infection confers reactive immunity to a variety of strains, we could be closer to the endemic but manageable end game. Good vaccines + mild severity illness are basically the best case. What a stroke of luck that we are here vs a more infectious strain of Delta or some other nig…

There's no moving past covid until an exit plan is announced. If there isn't one, the only hope of moving past covid is resistance. If people stopped rushing for the latest vaccine, stopped getting tested regularly, even without symptoms, we would be past covid already.

You’re going to have to lay down the logic behind this one for me. I am not getting it.

Re: Children develop robust and sustained cross-reactive immunity after Covid

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This is complete nonsense. https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.01.21259785v... In Israel (I use them because they have a fantastic dashboard) not a single individual under the age of 19 has died of covid. Stop fear mongering.

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Re: Children develop robust and sustained cross-reactive immunity after Covid

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Finally some glimmers of hope in moving past Covid.. if Omicron continues on its current track of highly infectious but less serious —- and infection confers reactive immunity to a variety of strains, we could be closer to the endemic but manageable end game. Good vaccines + mild severity illness are basically the best case. What a stroke of luck that we are here vs a more infectious strain of Delta or some other nig…

If infection grants more generalized immunity, doesn’t that mean a tailored vaccine would do the same?

Re: Children develop robust and sustained cross-reactive immunity after Covid

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Is there any reason to assume that initial infection with Covid can't cause both immunity against subsequent infection AND long Covid symptoms? Think about how chicken pox works. You get infected, you deal with (usually but not always) mild symptoms, and then you don't get chicken pox again. But you are susceptible to shingles later in life.

Chicken pox is caused by varicella, a herpes virus which remains permanently in most infected people. It is in no way comparable to COVID-19.

I'm not suggesting that Covid and chicken pox are related as viruses. I'm merely pointing out one example of how long-term symptoms are not incompatible with immunity. We know that Covid causes long-term symptoms in some people. So it would be interesting to see whether the differential between natural immunity and vaccinated immunity (if there is one) is outweighed by the acute and long-term symptoms of active infection.

Re: Children develop robust and sustained cross-reactive immunity after Covid

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We're going to look back on our treatment of children these past 2 years as one of the greatest blunders in the history of public health policy.

We sacrificed the mental health of the young for the physical health of the old.

Pandemics aren't easy

Re: Children develop robust and sustained cross-reactive immunity after Covid

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We sacrificed the mental health of the young for the physical health of the old.

But hey, grandma gets to live another year now. Who cares if the poor family never recovers after financial crisis.

I would suffer financially greatly if it brought back my grandmother, she passed from COVID December of last year. I wish she had another year. She would have had a chance to meet her great grandson. But sure, complain about the numbers in your bank account some more.

Edit after being downvoted: Sure, downvote me and don’t respond over my dead grandmother, coward.

Re: Children develop robust and sustained cross-reactive immunity after Covid

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We're going to look back on our treatment of children these past 2 years as one of the greatest blunders in the history of public health policy.

> one of the greatest blunders in the history of public health policy

Is it a blunder when malice is involved?

Re: Children develop robust and sustained cross-reactive immunity after Covid

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We're going to look back on our treatment of children these past 2 years as one of the greatest blunders in the history of public health policy.

We sacrificed the mental health of the young for the physical health of the old.

My kids' mental health would be pretty heavily impacted by the death of their grandparents.

A pretty large number of kids are raised by "the old", too. https://www.prb.org/resources/more-u-s-children-raised-by-gr...

Re: Children develop robust and sustained cross-reactive immunity after Covid

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This is complete nonsense. https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.01.21259785v... In Israel (I use them because they have a fantastic dashboard) not a single individual under the age of 19 has died of covid. Stop fear mongering.

I don't think he claimed anybody died.
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