Trisquel GNU/Linux
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Trisquel GNU/Linux
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Re: Trisquel GNU/Linux
#2Why Trisquel?
> entirely free software
> teach users to value and protect their freedom
> no binary-only firmware for wireless cards or proprietary drivers for AMD/ATI and NVIDIA graphics cards are included
Re: Trisquel GNU/Linux
#3Since it runs on Linux-libre, there is a good chance several devices/peripherals will fail to perform as intended. If the idea is to have a toy distro (working as a VM) to explore around, it’s looking great. But I don’t see why it will gain traction for real use case.
Re: Trisquel GNU/Linux
#4Why Trisquel? > entirely free software > teach users to value and protect their freedom > no binary-only firmware for wireless cards or proprietary drivers for AMD/ATI and NVIDIA graphics cards are included
Trisquel is an FSF project so there is absolutely nothing proprietary in it (including the kernel which is stripped of proprietary drivers).
Which of course is ideologically great but makes real-world hardware support nightmarish.
Re: Trisquel GNU/Linux
#5Since it runs on Linux-libre, there is a good chance several devices/peripherals will fail to perform as intended. If the idea is to have a toy distro (working as a VM) to explore around, it’s looking great. But I don’t see why it will gain traction for real use case.
> there is a good chance several devices/peripherals will fail to perform as intended
For the record, I use Trisquel and it didn't recognize my wifi adapter. I went to the forums and someone said you need special libre wifi adapters that work with Linux. However, my internal network adapter worked fine. It plays well with most ethernet adapters thankfully.
Re: Trisquel GNU/Linux
#6Since it runs on Linux-libre, there is a good chance several devices/peripherals will fail to perform as intended. If the idea is to have a toy distro (working as a VM) to explore around, it’s looking great. But I don’t see why it will gain traction for real use case.
Think of it as a reference implementation that, in a perfect world, hardware vendors would proudly target.
Re: Trisquel GNU/Linux
#7Those people are super shy about what their system is based on, which packages are available, and what is unique to Trisquel.
From what I could find out, it seems to be another Ubuntu-based system, but with all non-free parts disabled. Is there anything more to it?
Re: Trisquel GNU/Linux
#8Since it runs on Linux-libre, there is a good chance several devices/peripherals will fail to perform as intended. If the idea is to have a toy distro (working as a VM) to explore around, it’s looking great. But I don’t see why it will gain traction for real use case.
Reminder that linux-libre also removes warnings in the kernel that you're running outdated CPU microcode, because the FSF doesn't believe users should be informed about updates (some of which are security critical) to proprietary software they are already running anyway.
Make of that what you will.
Re: Trisquel GNU/Linux
#9Since it runs on Linux-libre, there is a good chance several devices/peripherals will fail to perform as intended. If the idea is to have a toy distro (working as a VM) to explore around, it’s looking great. But I don’t see why it will gain traction for real use case.
> there is a good chance several devices/peripherals will fail to perform as intended For the record, I use Trisquel and it didn't recognize my wifi adapter. I went to the forums and someone said you need special libre wifi adapters that work with Linux. However, my internal network adapter worked fine. It plays well with most ethernet adapters thankfully.
The vast majority of WiFi adapters work fine with Linux and linux-firmware. You only need special "libre" ("firmwareless"*) WiFi adapters if you want them to work with linux-libre and distros that use it like this one, since it cripples support for anything that requires firmware.
* Most "firmwareless" devices have firmware ROMs anyway. The FSF only believe it counts as nonfree if the users can see the firmware in /lib/firmware; they are happy to endorse products with hundreds of kilobytes of nonfree firmware ROM as "respects your freedom", since users can't see the blobs.
Re: Trisquel GNU/Linux
#10Since it runs on Linux-libre, there is a good chance several devices/peripherals will fail to perform as intended. If the idea is to have a toy distro (working as a VM) to explore around, it’s looking great. But I don’t see why it will gain traction for real use case.
Think of it as a reference implementation that, in a perfect world, hardware vendors would proudly target.
Hardware manufacturers can ideologically target the libre flavor, but in practice it is next to impossible to deliver. Drivers are built to address specific hardware features. As features grow, so do system complexities and software calls. Every OEM addresses a feature in a specific problem-solving paradigm. Trying to unify most hardware under a standard set of function & procedure calls cannot be fathomed.
A real world analogy is to make shoes of a single size and color & expect every person in the world can use it comfortably irrespective of their size or body type.